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That's quite alright. If you can only get to 3.4 GHz, then that's where we'll stay.


That previous run at x16/x16 (CPU @ 3.2 GHz) scored higher than your x16/x4 (CPU @ 3.4 GHz). I think you could break 30K with your CPU at 3.4 GHz and x16/x16 configuration. Where you on SP1 or SP2 for that test?


Out of curiosity, how hot did the cards get when they were next to each other? I only have the option of running them that way and I'm getting somewhat concerned about heat.
I was on SP1 for that test...the 2nd card hit 90 degrees in vantage ( the 2nd test, the space battle scene), while the first one was between 65-70c with the fan @65%. I was expecting it to be hot, but not that hot, even my tri sli set up was cooler. But once the cards were split up, they've both been within 3-5 degrees of eachother and topped out at 86 on furmark ( god knows what it would of been if they were still close together).
I'll try higher O/C on my CPU just for vantage runs, most I ever got out of it was 3.8ghz, so I've some room still...
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Good luck to everyone receiving their cards today!
Indeed! I am available for flashing and general help advice today if need be. Send a PM or reply here to anyone who finds a snag.
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I'll add a few as well:

http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
http://www.batmanarkhamasylum.com/demo
http://www.crysisdemo.com/download.htm
Just Cause 2 has a free demo you can download through Steam, and there's a benchmark in it.

This makes running the Crysis demo benchmark a lot easier:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Crysis-B...load-1791.html

Also, just so you know, with the aforementioned AvP benchmark you have to go into a text file to see the breakdown of your scores. On my machine those files go here: C:\\Users\\Brett\\Documents\\AvP_D3D11_Benchmark
    
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Thanks for the benchmarking suggestions guys, looks likes it gonna be a bad day for my bandwidth. Ill post up my results from the benches in the next couple of days, gonna take a while to get everything downloaded and all that jazz.
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calling out in transit
calling out in transit
my cards have now escaped cerritos
my cards have now escaped cerritos

+10000 internets to whoever knows what song I'm messing with there ...
I really wish I knew.......those 10000 internets would be nice.

Any hints?!


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I was on SP1 for that test...the 2nd card hit 90 degrees in vantage ( the 2nd test, the space battle scene), while the first one was between 65-70c with the fan @65%. I was expecting it to be hot, but not that hot, even my tri sli set up was cooler. But once the cards were split up, they've both been within 3-5 degrees of eachother and topped out at 86 on furmark ( god knows what it would of been if they were still close together).
I'll try higher O/C on my CPU just for vantage runs, most I ever got out of it was 3.8ghz, so I've some room still...
Hrmmm....I may run into a problem then. Hopefully the side intake fan I installed on Saturday will make a difference.

As for overclocking your CPU for another Vantage run. Don't stress it if you really don't want to. I wouldn't want anything to happen to your CPU just for some Vantage score.


For future reference, as brettjv said, you should try the extreme test as opposed to performance. Just to see what kind of GPU score you get.
Edited by Frosty88 - 8/9/10 at 10:01am
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Would the GPU score still increase from a higher CPU clock rather than the CPU becoming less of a bottleneck for the GPUs? That sounds confusing....
When there is some cpu-bottlenecking going on (as is indicated by the phenomenon of the FPS, aka 'GPU score', rising with CPU clock speed), as one increases the cpu clock speed, the relative amount of fps rise vs. the clock speed rise will most likely decrease. I.E. if the first 10% cpu bump gives you a 5% fps rise, it's very likely that the next 10% cpu bump will give you something like a +4% fps rise, the second 10% cpu bump would give like a 2.8% rise, etc, until such time as the bottleneck is completely removed.

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Basically, if the bottleneck was non-existent and the CPU was overclocked, would the GPU score still increase as well as the CPU score?
No. When a bump of CPU speed increases FPS, it is prima facie evidence of a CPU bottleneck in that particular test. Given this fact, it should be self-evident that, conversely, if there is no cpu-bottleneck, then increasing CPU speed will NOT increase FPS.

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I figured the CPU and total score would increase but the GPU score would stay around the same, unless overclocking the CPU was actually decreasing a bottleneck.
And you figure correct
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i really wish i knew.......those 10000 internets would be nice.

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When there is some cpu-bottlenecking going on (as is indicated by the phenomenon of the FPS, aka 'GPU score', rising with CPU clock speed), as one increases the cpu clock speed, the relative amount of fps rise vs. the clock speed rise will most likely decrease. I.E. if the first 10% cpu bump gives you a 5% fps rise, it's very likely that the next 10% cpu bump will give you something like a +4% fps rise, the second 10% cpu bump would give like a 2.8% rise, etc, until such time as the bottleneck is completely removed.

No. When a bump of CPU speed increases FPS, it is prima facie evidence of a CPU bottleneck in that particular test. Given this fact, it should be self-evident that, conversely, if there is no cpu-bottleneck, then increasing CPU speed will NOT increase FPS.

And you figure correct
Ahhh, that really clarifies things.

In your opinion, at what CPU frequency would a bottleneck be eliminated with GTX 470s in SLI?


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r.e.m
Thank you, sir.

I can honestly say I have never heard "Radio Free Europe"....maybe I should listen to more R.E.M.
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r.e.m
My man Danny coming through ... +10000 internets to a fellow old guy

"Radio Free Europe" from the Murmur album (1983), to be precise.

Whenever I see my newegg order page and my card says 'in transit' ... I sing a little bit of that song to myself.

So, Danny, did you recognize it, or did you google?

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Ahhh, that really clarifies things.

In your opinion, at what CPU frequency would a bottleneck be eliminated with GTX 470s in SLI?

Thank you, sir.

I can honestly say I have never heard "Radio Free Europe"....maybe I should listen to more R.E.M.
In my opinion, there's no 'magic number', because it always depends on the test you run. In 3dMark06, with SLI 470's, the bottleneck would continue probably up to 8GHz or more. In Vantage Extreme, it's probably like 2.4GHz.

And yes, the first 5 R.E.M. albums (Murmur - Document, aka the I.R.S. Years) are all must-own if you like the alternative rock genre. They practically defined what it was to be alt-rock with those disks. They all have a very timeless quality to them, like Led Zeppelin and the Beatles, bands where you here their influence being continually recycled, so that even though it's old, it never quite seems like it's music from a specific time period.

Everything after those first five are hit and miss (except Automatic for the People, which was pretty brilliant throughout), but those five ... quintessential in the canon of American alt-rock.

From the wiki for Radio Free Europe:
The song is ranked number 379 on Rolling Stone list of The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. In 2010, it was added to the Library of Congress's National Recording Registry for setting "the pattern for later indie rock releases by breaking through on college radio in the face of mainstream radio's general indifference.

YouTube- ‪REM - Radio Free Europe‬‎
Sorry for the thread de-rail, btw
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