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Pretty sure one if modified from a 470 source, keeping some constants, and one is from a 480 source, keeping some constants.
Email sent.

Edit: If anyone else wants a stock MSI GTX470 BIOS, just shoot me a pm with your email and i'd be more than happy to send it.

PS: I get my ECO's tomorrow
Edited by Coolio831 - 8/11/10 at 1:33am
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Okay, so lets look at the gain we got from the flash to 470.

Previous result from SLI 465's (stock) in Vantage Extreme



New result from SLI 465's (stock, flashed to 470 bios)




Accidentally ran it w/PhysX this run. Oh well, just concerned with GPU score anyways

So our gain from the flash to the 470 bios is:

(14514 - 11323) / 11323 = 28.1%

I would have to say this definitely the sort of sizable gain I was hoping to see.


Edited by brettjv - 8/11/10 at 1:44am
    
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Further notes re: the above:

HOWEVER - the 12C increase in temps that has resulted on Load with the 470 bios, despite an extremely modest voltage bump (note I ran Vantage on .988V, which appears stable at stock vs. .975V on the 465 bios) ... is troublesome.

Make no mistake, these cards are still Fermi's, and they still run VERY hot. I would definitely NOT think that running these two cards w/o a gap between them is going to work out at all well.

The heat coming out of the 'blowhole' of the bottom card (where the turbine fan would normally be) shoots straight up at the fan of the top card. This means that the air coming out the blowhole of the top card is like a friggin volcanic eruption. And with my board, this magma-like blow-off is heading straight at my chipset fan.

I'm trying to figure out a safe way to patch up the blowholes in such a way that the card can still be easily returned to 'stock' for any future RMA.

With the amount of heat you are adding to your case, be prepared for CPU temps to go up, and everything else as well, esp. if you run them in SLI and flash them and OC them.

Despite the nifty copper, these cards are still little furnaces.
    
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I finally have mine!!! As soon as I submit this post, I will begin the process of making unboxing photos! Of course, I am also going to take installation photos too.

So here I go! I'll be back in a while! I can't wait to find out which number I have either!



P.S. If you're wondering what took me so long, then my only answer is that I'm just a slow-moving human being. hehe
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Further notes re: the above:

HOWEVER - the 12C increase in temps that has resulted on Load with the 470 bios, despite an extremely modest voltage bump (note I ran Vantage on .988V, which appears stable at stock vs. .975V on the 465 bios) ... is troublesome.

Make no mistake, these cards are still Fermi's, and they still run VERY hot. I would definitely NOT think that running these two cards w/o a gap between them is going to work out at all well.

The heat coming out of the 'blowhole' of the bottom card (where the turbine fan would normally be) shoots straight up at the fan of the top card. This means that the air coming out the blowhole of the top card is like a friggin volcanic eruption. And with my board, this magma-like blow-off is heading straight at my chipset fan.

I'm trying to figure out a safe way to patch up the blowholes in such a way that the card can still be easily returned to 'stock' for any future RMA.

With the amount of heat you are adding to your case, be prepared for CPU temps to go up, and everything else as well, esp. if you run them in SLI and flash them and OC them.

Despite the nifty copper, these cards are still little furnaces.
Maybe you should consider a PCI slot fan if you have the room? I used one on a build I did about 8 years ago and it helped tremendously keeping my video card cool.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g36/...ans-Page1.html
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I finally have mine!!! As soon as I submit this post, I will begin the process of making unboxing photos! Of course, I am also going to take installation photos too.

So here I go! I'll be back in a while! I can't wait to find out which number I have either!



P.S. If you're wondering what took me so long, then my only answer is that I'm just a slow-moving human being. hehe
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Hurry. I wanna see the pics & results!
I'm taking a break because my mom is getting ready for work, and I don't want to be busted.

So far, I have a few decent pics taken with a Canon PowerShot G10. I will be able to continue again in 15 minutes!
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I'm taking a break because my mom is getting ready for work, and I don't want to be busted.

So far, I have a few decent pics taken with a Canon PowerShot G10. I will be able to continue again in 15 minutes!


Didn't mess with mine last night. Trying to get my 1055T stable at 4.0.

However someone above mentioned modding some 80mm fans on this thing. It would probably help quite a bit.
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Didn't mess with mine last night. Trying to get my 1055T stable at 4.0.

However someone above mentioned modding some 80mm fans on this thing. It would probably help quite a bit.
I'll do that after the warranty is up in 3 years

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So far, I have a few decent pics taken with a Canon PowerShot G10. I will be able to continue again in 15 minutes!
SHWEET! Get er done! Can't wait to hear your results

My card was 100% stable, 0 artifacts at 750/1500/1850 w/ 1.063v last night through multiple runs of Vantage and a long sessions of OC Scanner w/ Unlocked Power Draw. I'll be testing in more benchmarks and games tonight!
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Further notes re: the above:

HOWEVER - the 12C increase in temps that has resulted on Load with the 470 bios, despite an extremely modest voltage bump (note I ran Vantage on .988V, which appears stable at stock vs. .975V on the 465 bios) ... is troublesome.

Make no mistake, these cards are still Fermi's, and they still run VERY hot. I would definitely NOT think that running these two cards w/o a gap between them is going to work out at all well.

The heat coming out of the 'blowhole' of the bottom card (where the turbine fan would normally be) shoots straight up at the fan of the top card. This means that the air coming out the blowhole of the top card is like a friggin volcanic eruption. And with my board, this magma-like blow-off is heading straight at my chipset fan.

I'm trying to figure out a safe way to patch up the blowholes in such a way that the card can still be easily returned to 'stock' for any future RMA.

With the amount of heat you are adding to your case, be prepared for CPU temps to go up, and everything else as well, esp. if you run them in SLI and flash them and OC them.

Despite the nifty copper, these cards are still little furnaces.

This news is somewhat discouraging as I'm not will to run just one card and I have no way to run two with any space between. I may run 5850 xfire if these get too hot. I'm sure I could sell them if I had to.

Couldn't you use some kind of back plate to cover the hole? I know it's not a cost-free solution, but it should definitely get the job done.




On a lighter note, you're seeing some great gains after the flashing process. Just for comparison purposes, would you do a SLI 470 run on the performance preset. I want to see how close these can get to stock 480 SLI and most reviews/benchmarks use "Performance" mode.
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