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I moved on from 470r.rom (NCspecV81's) to Grunion's "best performing" with "1.21V max", and I'm still getting errors in OCCT - even with a Shader Complexity setting of 0.

I may have to go back to that stock MSI 470 BIOS and just leave it at stock.


But, I do need some input!
Have you tried anything other than OCCT? Did OC Scanner give you errors with gruinion's EVGA identifying BIOS?

As you said, the higher numbered ones seem to be weaker
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Did you take note of the VID before the flash when it was a stock GTX 465? Your card may just need more voltage than others making it a poor overclocker.
Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was. But if I had to guess based on my fading memory of what I saw, then I think it was 1.062V.

But, the VID of 1.050V that the MSI BIOS I used works perfectly if I don't overclock anything.

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Have you tried anything other than OCCT? Did OC Scanner give you errors with gruinion's EVGA identifying BIOS?

As you said, the higher numbered ones seem to be weaker
Well no. But since I'm getting errors in OCCT, I see no reason to try anything else (after all, instability is instability right?). I mean, the only time I'm going to try anything else is when I get no errors in OCCT. In other words, I'll see no errors and say "lol yeah right... let's see how it does in EVGA OC Scanner" or something.
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I can go 15 mins stable no artifacts with OC scanner at 800/1600/1800 1.075v but with OCCT it won't even do 800/1600/1674 1.087v without artifacting.
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Unfortunately, I don't remember what it was. But if I had to guess based on my fading memory of what I saw, then I think it was 1.062V.

But, the VID of 1.050V that the MSI BIOS I used works perfectly if I don't overclock anything.


Well no. But since I'm getting errors in OCCT, I see no reason to try anything else (after all, instability is instability right?). I mean, the only time I'm going to try anything else is when I get no errors in OCCT. In other words, I'll see no errors and say "lol yeah right... let's see how it does in EVGA OC Scanner" or something.
Have you tried gaming yet? I mean, even if OCCT shows errors, OC Scanner may not and games may not, which means unless you need it to be 100% stable in every single test you put it through, it should be just fine.
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Have you used any other BIOS's besides the NCSpec one?

Mine is at 750/1500/1850 @ 1.063v right now and it hits 84C @ 75% fan in OC Scanner with unlocked power draw. Of course, my room is 78-80F, but I've seen higher OC's with better temps/voltages out of some others in here.

When I tried 750c at 1.050v, I got graphical errors in BC2 and my system locked up. Upping to 1.063v fixed that, but I still don't like being at almost 85C. I feel like I should flash back to stock to see what the stock VID was to determine whether my card really needs so much voltage or if it's the BIOS's fault.
You're only running your fan at 75% when stressing though in OC Scanner. When I run OC Scanner I'm at 100% fan. During normal 24/7 use I'm at 70% fan and gaming temps never exceed mid 70's
    
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I can go 15 mins stable no artifacts with OC scanner at 800/1600/1800 1.075v but with OCCT it won't even do 800/1600/1674 1.087v without artifacting.
oc scanner with power draw unlocked?
    
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Have you tried gaming yet? I mean, even if OCCT shows errors, OC Scanner may not and games may not, which means unless you need it to be 100% stable in every single test you put it through, it should be just fine.
But why wouldn't I want it to be 100% stable?

However, the thought did indeed cross my mind to just give up and go game for a while with NCspecV81's BIOS (470r.rom). That is, unless there's a better one that I can try! Is there a better one?
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oc scanner with power draw unlocked?
Yes
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I've added more scaling performance tests to my GTX465 Unlocked performance thread, including a detailed breakdown on Stalker CoP maxed at 1920x1200 + AvP scaling tests.

Check it out and feel free give my thread some love

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/7988...-unlocked.html

Note that there's a post on the first page where I compared single card Vantage Extreme scores against a real 470, both at stock 470 clocks. And the unlocked GTX465 actually WON!!!
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But why wouldn't I want it to be 100% stable?

However, the thought did indeed cross my mind to just give up and go game for a while with NCspecV81's BIOS (470r.rom). That is, unless there's a better one that I can try! Is there a better one?
Of course you would strive for 100% stability. But 100% stability is totally subjective. My CPU overclock passes prime95 for 12 hours, but fails out of F@H after only a few minutes. However, I have been running it like this for months now and have never had a crash in game, in bench, on desktop, NADA. And since I don't fold at home (due to electric bill) it doesn't matter to me.

If the card works for what you need it for 100% of the time, who cares if it artifacts in OCCT? It's not like you'll ever run OCCT again after you verify the card is stable for what you use it for every day.
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