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so are you going to sell your gtx 260?
lol scavanging begins
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unlock it should be good. But no one thinks how much its power require? unlock + OC 800 1600 400 GTX470's power near GTX480's power = 2X GTX460's power ( OC 800 1600 4000 SLI) = 320-360w at Loading.
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Well for the 470, I would recommend one made by EVGA because they have great warranties/reviews.
however....it is known that evga bins the best VID chips onto their SC, Hydro cooling editions....and they give you cards with a crappy VID, unless you get lucky and get one that doesn't have a crappy VID

I would go for asus IMO, I pretty much stick to asus or sapphire nowadays
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Unless something has changed since I bought my EVGA 8800 GTS 512 cards a few years ago, overclocking does not void their warranty. I've had nothing but the best experiences from their customer service as well.
    
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I agree that water is a must for overclocking a Fermi.

Got my 470's yesterday and tried overclocking to 875 core and it was stable, but once temps got to 95c I black screened. This is with 100% fan too, which sounds like dual hurricanes.
    
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I agree that water is a must for overclocking a Fermi.

Got my 470's yesterday and tried overclocking to 875 core and it was stable, but once temps got to 95c I black screened. This is with 100% fan too, which sounds like dual hurricanes.
try the fermi fan mod if you have space

take the shroud off and disable the stock blower fan either through software or pulling out its power/control cable and strap 2x 120mm CM R4's or better onto the main heatsink right above the chip....works wonders! drops load by up to 20*C max

try here for more info: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/7845...i-fan-mod.html
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Well for the 470, I would recommend one made by EVGA because they have great warranties/reviews.
I have to admit that I am leaning towards an EVGA card, so I had to make this thread to help me make a better-informed decision.

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go with the gtx 470, you shouldn't bank on unlocking anything or you'll might end up disappointed
You're right. The only way I'd get that 465 is if it's guaranteed. Now, the only reason why I'm considering that specific model is because I was told that this Limited Edition (or whatever it can be called) can definitely be flashed to a 470 - but I don't have enough evidence for me to be sure that the specific one Newegg would send me will be able to be flashed.

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if they're reference cards it doesnt really matter.

However the Zotac AMP edition GTX 470 has the best cooler on the market for it
Whoa I forgot about that one.

Is it easy to tell whether or not I'm looking at a reference card? This is the first time I've ever wanted a reference card.

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I say the MSI N465GTX Twin Frozr II GE...take the gamble.
If it's a gamble, then I'd rather not. I don't want to be stuck with a 465 when I could've had a 460 or a 470.

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My understanding of the 465 is that the first cards where software neutered 470's and that they could be flashed back to their 470 status but the newer 465's are not the same card thus making getting one that can be flashed a crap shoot

I have had my Evga 470 sc running as high as 900 mhz. core but that was with 1.25
volts, I normally run it at stock (625) maxes out all my games
The reason why I'm looking at that specific 465 is because I was told that this Limited Edition (or whatever it can be called) is supposed to be nearly guaranteed to be able to be flashed to a 470. But the only way I'd buy it is if I can get a 100% solid guarantee. Plus, now that I can afford a BNIB 470, I'm only interested in that 465 because of the way it looks along with the supposedly strong possibility that it can be flashed to a 470.

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water cooling is the only way to go if you plan on OCing a Fermi card
Doh. I forgot about this.

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so are you going to sell your gtx 260?
Maybe. I mean, if I sell it, then the 470 will end up being my only graphics card. So if I don't sell the 260, then I'll always have it around just in case. I mean, the 260 is my only graphics card - I don't have a backup.

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however....it is known that evga bins the best VID chips onto their SC, Hydro cooling editions....and they give you cards with a crappy VID, unless you get lucky and get one that doesn't have a crappy VID

I would go for asus IMO, I pretty much stick to asus or sapphire nowadays
Did you mean that both their SC and Hydro editions have the best VID chips? I haven't looked yet, so I'm asking if you meant two different card types.

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Unless something has changed since I bought my EVGA 8800 GTS 512 cards a few years ago, overclocking does not void their warranty. I've had nothing but the best experiences from their customer service as well.
I'm not concerned about voiding the warranty, but rather I'm concerned about the overclockability of factory-overclocked cards. Back when the 9800 GTX+ was a new card, I remember people saying that it's best to avoid factory-overclocked cards because they didn't overclock as well as non factory-overclocked cards. So people who wanted big GPU overclocks would get cards that weren't factory overclocked, and those who didn't want to bother with overclocking would just get the factory-overclocked versions.

So, I don't know if this is still true today.

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I agree that water is a must for overclocking a Fermi.

Got my 470's yesterday and tried overclocking to 875 core and it was stable, but once temps got to 95c I black screened. This is with 100% fan too, which sounds like dual hurricanes.
Whoa. Then I definitely won't be overclocking my 470.

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Why would I consider buying a 460 when I can afford a 470 now? I mean, seriously: why did you suggest a 460, and why did you suggest it in this thread? If you're wondering why I'm responding this way, then please refer to my original post that started this thread (also refer to the thread's title).
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unlock it should be good. But no one thinks how much its power require? unlock + OC 800 1600 400 GTX470's power near GTX480's power = 2X GTX460's power ( OC 800 1600 4000 SLI) = 320-360w at Loading.
There's a reason I have a 750W power supply.
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I have it cranked to the max that MSI afterburner will allow (and I'm using the stock MSI gtx 470 bios) of 1.87volts





I don't mean to try and out do what everyone else has done, I just mean to clean it up a little. Like the part about making the USB bootable drive. It makes it seem like the HP tool should copy over a ton of files AND the autoexec.bat file -- however, it only copies 3 files. This is actually what it is supposed to do, but none of the guides make that clear. So everyone gets stuck at that part until they decide to just try it anyway.

What the guide should say is: after the USB stick has been made, and the 3 files are copied to it, go back into the original folder and copy/paste the rest of the files to the USB stick (and DON'T overwrite the files you just created, skip copying those) -- THEN edit the autoexec.bat file that you just copied to your USB flash drive.


Also, make sure your thumb drive is plugged in when you try to enable it to boot under your PC's Bios. (that should go without saying... but you never know)


so a guide with added parts to it. Maybe it can even just be little "edits" to the guide that already exists.

Hm, does lowering your memory help at all? Like can you run 800+ with memory down at 1900?
    
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