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Knowledge and truth are superior to guesswork.

But hey - it's your sanity, not mine. All you're doing is setting yourself up to fail. You're also setting yourself up for disappointment by not ensuring that it's stable so that you can have peace of mind and so that you never return it for such a frivolous reason as that.
I lack the patience to sit there for 5 days straight to try and achieve something I'll never need is the thing. I'm happy with its performance in games. However, the fact that I can't even replace the TIM on it without worrying about voiding the warranty bugs me.

I've always been an EVGA user, because their warranty isn't voided by that stuff, and it's lifetime. This is mostly the stuff that weighs on my mind.
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I've just added a side case fan (Noctua NF-P12-1300) basically pointed right at the card and am getting GREAT results. Furmark Load temps have gone down ~25C (93C to 69C) even with PostFX which it couldn't handle before after 2 hours. OCCT GPU Test 8 is not getting errors anymore and stays at ~76C.

I'm clocked at 1087mV 850/1700/1990, went up from 840/1975 after adding the side fan and could potentially go higher. Ambient temps are ~21C and GPU fans are at 77%. I'm LOVING this card now (except for the fan clicking).
Wish I could fit another fan in my case. The only slot left is the side panel, and my Ven-X won't allow me to add one there. I might go with an Antec spotcool or something.
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Wish I could fit another fan in my case. The only slot left is the side panel, and my Ven-X won't allow me to add one there. I might go with an Antec spotcool or something.
Mod man! Mod!

Get some feet to elevate the case and put an intake in the bottom. It really isn't tough and it's quite fun
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Mod man! Mod!

Get some feet to elevate the case and put an intake in the bottom. It really isn't tough and it's quite fun
I already have one spotcool in my case. Another would serve the same purpose. That thing moves a lot of air.
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I lack the patience to sit there for 5 days straight to try and achieve something I'll never need is the thing. I'm happy with its performance in games. However, the fact that I can't even replace the TIM on it without worrying about voiding the warranty bugs me.

I've always been an EVGA user, because their warranty isn't voided by that stuff, and it's lifetime. This is mostly the stuff that weighs on my mind.
I'm sorry, but I guess you are beyond help. So at this point, your best bet right now is to just return the card and get a regular, stock GTX 470.

This is the only way that you will have peace of mind. You will no longer have to worry about it!


You see, overclocking absolutely requires patience and it absolutely requires stress testing. Otherwise, overclocking should not be performed.
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Wish I could fit another fan in my case. The only slot left is the side panel, and my Ven-X won't allow me to add one there. I might go with an Antec spotcool or something.
Yeah, my old 8800GT's cooler couldn't fit the side fan. +1000points to this sweet copper cooler.

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Which BIOS are you on?

Tried Vantage?
I'm using this stock bios. I ran vantage before possibly on 1087mV/840/1975 and got a GPU score of ~17.5k?
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Yes he did! But I have noticed throughout my testing that OCCT is HEAVILY temperature dependent, so if you are failing OCCT with a driver crash, try adding a bottom intake fan. It will make a world of difference.

These chips probably didn't make 470 binning because they are sensitive to anything above 80-85C.
This. With this card, I would do everything I could go get the load temps below 80C. Can probably get into the mid 800's if the temps were low enough
    
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These cards are included? I thought only a few of the high end MSI cards were going to have it?
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I've been running the beta of that new version of AfterBurner and it doesn't have AUX and Memory voltage adjustment options. It's only supposed to be for cards that have the specific specialized voltages chips that can support that.
The beta release notes show this:

In Afterburner 2.0, we completely re-design the voltage control module, and implement world's first exclusive "Triple over-Voltage" function. On MSI hi-end graphics card like N460GTX Hawk, N480GTX Lightning, you can pull down the voltage control menu and over-voltage GPU, Memory and Aux.

N460GTX Hawk will be the first card supports Triple Over-Voltage, and MSI will release more and more cards support Triple or Dual Over-Voltage in the future.

- Voltage control layer has been seriously revamped to give additional freedom to extreme overclockers with new custom design MSI graphics cards. Now MSI Afterburner is able to control up to 3 voltages on custom design MSI Fermi and other future custom design MSI graphics cards.

- Added core, memory and auxiliary PEXVDD voltage control for custom design MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II OV3 series graphics cards with uP6218+uP6262 voltage regulators

Basically I'm trying to get an answer to this over on the guru3d thread about the new beta. If our 'friend' Alex aka Unwinder can get past his obsession with trying to make people look stupid instead of just answering their friggin questions, we might find out soon enough.

Hopefully the 465 GE will turn out to be 'high-end' and 'custom-design' enough (i.e. it has the right physical hardware) to be capable of implementing the memory voltage-tweak feature.

Sorry if I mislead anyone in my earlier post, I worded it poorly. I'm HOPING we can get it on these cards
    
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I've been coveting the HAFX myself

The side fan shroud that funnels the air directly onto the gfx cards looks pretty optimal. One downside though with these cards is that the shroud/fan housing that attaches to the HD cage that's meant to pump extra air to the cards is designed to work w/a blower cooler. Meaning, one that's sucking air in at that spot, not blowing air out. Probably have to skip putting a fan in there.

Honestly though I'd go with the mobo w/better spacing ... wait, that IS what I went with

Again, consider my suggestion of an extra 3-drive bay up top with fan like I'm using. If you can move your HD(s) up to the top area and remove the big 5-bay assembly from the bottom like in that screenshot I posted ... that's going to help quite a bit as well.

Edit: Why don't we start out simple on the mobo question. Can you afford what I've got? If so, you should take advantage of my considerable motherboard-choosing acumen and get one of those. I absolutely adore and can wholeheartedly, unabashedly recommend the Rampage III Extreme w/o reservation of any kind.

If that's more than you can $tomach, lemme know, there's some other options. A key concern though is whether or not you're going to (get your life together and) get a real sound card at any point?
Did not see the edit. I can afford the mobo you have indeed. Also there is a mobo like yours open box on the egg. What do you think? Could it be a bunk board and thats why someone returned it?

Using the side fan and cutting away the mesh on the bottom of this case has made things so much better. I like being able to play metro at 90C better than 100C BUT I would sure love some space in between these bad boys and I would actually be able to see these beauties as well

I am hoping that if I get a new mobo I will get to actually OC these guys like I want to.
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I'm sorry, but I guess you are beyond help. So at this point, your best bet right now is to just return the card and get a regular, stock GTX 470.

This is the only way that you will have peace of mind. You will no longer have to worry about it!


You see, overclocking absolutely requires patience and it absolutely requires stress testing. Otherwise, overclocking should not be performed.
It isn't so much lack of patience really. It's lack of knowledge. If it crashes, I have no idea what to do. It's also a fear of damaging my card and voiding the warranty, as again, I don't know what I'm doing.
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