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It isn't so much lack of patience really. It's lack of knowledge. If it crashes, I have no idea what to do. It's also a fear of damaging my card and voiding the warranty, as again, I don't know what I'm doing.
But that's why I recommended that you ask questions. If you have to make a thread of your own, then do it. You said you lack knowledge, so gain more by asking questions. You can't get knowledge any easier and any faster by asking for the knowledge that you want to have.

If it crashes, then it's not stable. This is why it's so important to do the recommended stress testing. It's completely backwards to overclock and then game without first stress testing to ensure that it's stable.

And you have a fear of damaging your card and the warranty. This is another reason why you should just return this card, get a stock 470, and then leave it at stock. But to be honest, I don't understand why you're afraid of damaging the card and voiding the warranty: with the overclocking you're already doing, this fear is actually absurd! I mean, if you're afraid of damaging it and voiding the warranty, then why are you overclocking it?

You also don't know what you're doing. But if you had been asking questions like I recommended, then you'd know enough by today that you wouldn't be saying these things right now. Instead, you'd be equipped to help others, and you'd also be confident.

I no longer understand why you got this card. I also don't understand why you overclocked it.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/16/10 at 6:19pm
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I no longer understand why you got this card. I also don't understand why you overclocked it.
I'm sure he got it for the same reason any of us got it.

It's gorgeous, a limited edition, and unlocks to a 470!

Although I don't agree with how you presented your commentary to him, I think you did hit some important points.

It doesn't do any good to get frustrated while overclocking. If you're not having fun doing it, then it's probably not worth the stress.

Just as with any hobby, it's supposed to be a point of fun and joy, not one of stress and frustration. Sure, it can get a bit annoying to repeatedly fail, but once you find that sweet spot? Yeah, you'll be grinning from ear to ear Droogie.

It's up to you what your next course of action is, but keep what I've stated in mind.
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This is a great place to learn shure you have to read a bit but hay..if you ever get into a jam everone here will do what thay can to help. I found that over the past two weeks people that know how to overclock or dont know share there problems;an guess what ..everyone here is new to this card we all know the risk thats why we all help oneanother out.My knowledge of overclocking is slim to knone but i have been reading other peoples post an getting a better understanding of the card.trust me at page 230 i have red a lot an still there is a lot to learn.
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i wish i could plug this card in but a few thing stopping me mobo cpu and case dell dxpo51 intel r pentium d 2.80 dell case
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new case comming next week went with Cooler Master CM 690 NVIDIA Edition since i know this card needs air flow this seems to be ok for the price was 79 on amazon till they went up 99 now. this is loaded with fans mobo is my friends extra evga 780i cpu intel core 2 quad processor q6600
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I'm sure he got it for the same reason any of us got it.

It's gorgeous, a limited edition, and unlocks to a 470!

Although I don't agree with how you presented your commentary to him, I think you did hit some important points.

It doesn't do any good to get frustrated while overclocking. If you're not having fun doing it, then it's probably not worth the stress.

Just as with any hobby, it's supposed to be a point of fun and joy, not one of stress and frustration. Sure, it can get a bit annoying to repeatedly fail, but once you find that sweet spot? Yeah, you'll be grinning from ear to ear Droogie.

It's up to you what your next course of action is, but keep what I've stated in mind.
But if I were afraid of damaging a card and voiding its warranty, then I most certainly would not have the GTX 465 Golden Edition right now! I would have purchased a stock 470 and left it at stock. I mean, just the fact alone that the point of buying it is to flash it to a 470 would make me 100% sure that I'm going to avoid it - especially since a 465 is supposed to be slightly inferior to a 1GB 460.

But I don't care about warranties. However, I also don't want to risk damaging anything I own. Otherwise, I'd do the same thing NCspecV81 is doing!! Granted, I would first have to learn how to do it first and I'd also have to learn why he's doing what he's doing in every detail.

Now, you may not like the way I am talking to him, but try to see it from my perspective: he is the first one who told me about the Golden Edition, and he's also the one who ultimately convinced me to buy it. Yes, I'm extremely grateful, but now he is doing a 180° on me and is very close to just giving up and exchanging it for a regular 470 and paying the difference. As I asked him before, "But aren't you the one who told me about it and also later convinced me to order it?" I'm just very disappointed is all. Plus, I refuse to allow ANYONE on here to overclock their stuff without stress testing it first. I mean, I refuse to allow anyone to set themselves up for failure and frustration/disappointment like that. I refuse to just sit here and not be a friend.

But try to trust me: there's a method to my madness.
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It isn't so much lack of patience really. It's lack of knowledge. If it crashes, I have no idea what to do. It's also a fear of damaging my card and voiding the warranty, as again, I don't know what I'm doing.
Just get a real GTX 470 and be over with it. With what you have said, overclocking isn't for you. The amount of effort and time you'll be putting in this would be enough employable hours to addup enough together with the the amount already spent to get a real GTX 470, perhaps even a 480 if you really invested a lot of time. The original point in overclocking was for value, people buy cheaper stuff cuz they don't have the money and try to get more performance out of it with the time they invest. For people who have a lot of money, it's more like vanity, just like diamonds, wine, and coffee.
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**** that!

This is exactly how I broke my fan. I tried to adjust it a little while it was on, fingers touched the fan, blades flew into my face narrowly missing my eye.
looool. that sucks man. i actually did that too but the blade didn't break. i don't think it was running at 100% at the time. or maybe it was. i just remember thinking about your post when it happened and being like *whew*!
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Picked up my card today and I think its 1631. Didn't write it down. Anyways, flashed it to MSI 470 and it worked so I flashed it to the modified 480 ov480m.rom. It is currently 701/924/1401. Is that right? Anyways ran EVGA OC Scanner and it was artifact-ing after a few seconds. ***?! Is that normal? I would like to keep these clocks as I run my PC 24/7 but I'm wondering if the artifacts are an issue? Should I just flash it back to MSI/EVGA 470 stock bios?
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