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1950x2 = 3900. 1900x2 = 3800.
Lol... give this boy a break. He's the leader round here! Lots of stress in his position! He can't always be right!
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1950x2 = 3900. 1900x2 = 3800.
That's almost depressing....

Guess that's what 7 university-level math courses get me.

Money well spent!


Seriously though, can't I have a typo?! That's it.....I'm removing you from the owner's list, Metonymy.
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Does the micro center version of this card come with any games?
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That's almost depressing....

Guess that's what 7 university-level math courses get me.

Money well spent!


Seriously though, can't I have a typo?! That's it.....I'm removing you from the owner's list, Metonymy.
You should. I don't have one any longer. I RMA'd it to newegg and they refunded me because they were out of stock.

Buttttt... my new one is on its way from microcenter.

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Does the micro center version of this card come with any games?
Nope.
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I'm pretty confident in saying Anferny is multiplying what he sees in whatever overclocking software he is using by two. 1950 x 2 = 3800.

Anferny, It's DDR memory or Double Data Rate, so it's actually 837 multiplied by two for stock clocks or 975 multiplied by two (resulting in 1950), in your case .
The two proper values to quote for ddr5 memory are actually (for example) either 900MHz (the actual memory frequency), or it's 'effective' quad-data rate of 3600MHz.

1800MHz actually has no meaning other than it's the value that AB (wrongly) states as your memory clock. AB doesn't seem to know that these new cards have QDR memory, so it still quotes the effective data rate as though you were running DDR-DDR3, all of which were double data rate.
    
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The two proper values to quote for ddr5 memory are actually (for example) either 900MHz (the actual memory frequency), or it's 'effective' quad-data rate of 3600MHz.

1800MHz actually has no meaning other than it's the value that AB (wrongly) states as your memory clock. AB doesn't seem to know that these new cards have QDR memory, so it still quotes the effective data rate as though you were running DDR-DDR3, all of which were double data rate.
Cool, I didn't know that.

I'm still somewhat new to this so yeah
    
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So early reports show that my lucky #777 isnt as lucky as some other peoples cards. I can only get about 775/1675 overclock. Granted, I havent messed around with many bios's yet and I think I could push it a bit further. I'll get to it after I beat Mafia II.

Droogie, I ended up installing my 8800gtx as a physx card and I saw on average a 10fps increase. It really makes the game run smoother for me and makes the whole game more enjoyable as I dont need to turn down physx or anything.
That's not bad actually. I'm using Grunion's "EVGA Identifying - 1.15v max." BIOS which has a stock of 701/1402/1674, and I think I'm limited to 775/1550/1848 (775 core seems to be the limit).

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The two proper values to quote for ddr5 memory are actually (for example) either 900MHz (the actual memory frequency), or it's 'effective' quad-data rate of 3600MHz.

1800MHz actually has no meaning other than it's the value that AB (wrongly) states as your memory clock. AB doesn't seem to know that these new cards have QDR memory, so it still quotes the effective data rate as though you were running DDR-DDR3, all of which were double data rate.
Then why is it called GDDR5 and not GQDR5? I mean, if it's Quad Data Rate, then I don't yet understand why it's called Double Data Rate.
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GDDR5 is Quad Data Rate. Its why 900 x 4 = 3600.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR5


Afterburner is counting it in DOUBLE DATA RATE and not Quad Data Rate.
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GDDR5 is Quad Data Rate. Its why 900 x 4 = 3600.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR5


Afterburner is counting it in DOUBLE DATA RATE and not Quad Data Rate.
So if the data rate is quad and there are 10 memory modules with a clock of 900 this means there are basically 10 quad cores at 900 mhz, so 900 x 4 = 3600 so 10 CPUs at 3.6Ghz for this card?
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So if the data rate is quad and there are 10 memory modules with a clock of 900 this means there are basically 10 quad cores at 900 mhz, so 900 x 4 = 3600 so 10 CPUs at 3.6Ghz for this card?
CPU's? No. Memory chips are not cpu's, they're memory chips. They don't have cores.

Quad data rate means that for each single clock cycle, four bits of data can be transmitted from the gpu (the video card equivalent of the cpu) to the memory chips. With old fashioned SDRAM, only one bit was transmitted per cycle, and with the (actual) ddr memory (ddr, ddr2, ddr3, not sure about ddr4), two bits are transmitted per clock cycle.

@two cables ... yes, DDR5 is a misnomer, you are correct. It's like nvidia named it or something
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