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post #3311 of 5083
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Originally Posted by JPJ5624 View Post
Wow now I feel like I should flash to that bios. I'm wondering though, if I can run my overclock stable with the stock MSI 470 bios, will flashing to the Twin Frozr bios have some affect on stability?
The type of components used on each card (ie GE uses military class components) might be directly related to how well it will overclock, or how much voltage it needs to stabilize. So assuming the standard gtx 470 uses regular components where as the Twin Frozrs use higher grade components, then yea, there might actually be a difference AND benefit from using the Twin Frozr bios.

So with that being said, if you flash to the twin frozr bios you might be able to maybe lower voltage a bit more, or basically gain a bit more performance Not sure on that though, maybe someone more experienced can comment


EDIT: Just ran Kombustor for 10 mins on stock bios, stock settings and temps seemed to stabilize around 60C, 22-23C ambient...that's pretty decent I guess right? Also my cards stock voltage is 1.000V, my PNY 465 was 0.875..
Edited by spoolindsm127 - 9/4/10 at 2:26pm
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Wow now I feel like I should flash to that bios. I'm wondering though, if I can run my overclock stable with the stock MSI 470 bios, will flashing to the Twin Frozr bios have some affect on stability?
The BIOS effect has been debated to be a placebo effect by some and gold as others..I think the best course of action is to find as many voltage unlocked BIOS' as you can and test them all at identical volts/clocks and keep a detailed log of the results.
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So far with this new card I can bench at 880/1900 with 1.15. I go for around 850/1850 for my 24/7 clock.

I'm really happy with the clocks but I'm not all that impressed with the temps at all. I somehow manage to idle at 57 and load at 90 with everything on stock...

When I first got this card it loaded out at a max of 75 with power draw unlocked and the card overclocked but ever since I changed the TIM out for Arctic Silver Cerm, it has really gone up. I will try MX-3 later today after I give the AS time to cure, and if temps don't go down, that is....Yes, I have reapplied TIM multiple times.


This is the second card I have had with terrible temps...

Seriously...


My luck... I don't... even...

It's been said many times before in this thread that changing the TIM actually worsens the temps. Your temps looked fine before your changed the TIM. How come you went and changed it?
    
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It's been said many times before in this thread that changing the TIM actually worsens the temps. Your temps looked fine before your changed the TIM. How come you went and changed it?
I asked him the same question.
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Just flashed to the gtx 470 twin frozr bios and success!! OP can add #0474 to the list as unlocked

Purchase Location: Micro Center
No. 0474

The stock gtx 470 twin frozr bios set the voltage even lower to 0.987, so after bumping it up to 1.000v I crashed, so I tried 1.012 and crashed also . Waiting for the card to cool down before I try 1.025v, hopefully it stabilizes there

I think it honestly may be better to just buy a gtx 470 for cheap and overclock it. When it comes down to it, these cards are essentially using 'weak' gtx 470s. So even a regular say palit gtx 470 should clock higher and at lower voltages than these cards. But that's assuming of course the temperatures are in control...makes me wish MSi sold the Twin Frozr separately
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Just flashed to the gtx 470 twin frozr bios and success!! OP can add #0474 to the list as unlocked

Purchase Location: Micro Center
No. 0474

The stock gtx 470 twin frozr bios set the voltage even lower to 0.987, so after bumping it up to 1.000v I crashed, so I tried 1.012 and crashed also . Waiting for the card to cool down before I try 1.025v, hopefully it stabilizes there

I think it honestly may be better to just buy a gtx 470 for cheap and overclock it. When it comes down to it, these cards are essentially using 'weak' gtx 470s. So even a regular say palit gtx 470 should clock higher and at lower voltages than these cards. But that's assuming of course the temperatures are in control...makes me wish MSi sold the Twin Frozr separately
This card can be a voltage hog but it can handle the voltage and temperatures. Just crank it up and you'll be happy
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Just flashed to the gtx 470 twin frozr bios and success!! OP can add #0474 to the list as unlocked

Purchase Location: Micro Center
No. 0474

The stock gtx 470 twin frozr bios set the voltage even lower to 0.987, so after bumping it up to 1.000v I crashed, so I tried 1.012 and crashed also . Waiting for the card to cool down before I try 1.025v, hopefully it stabilizes there

I think it honestly may be better to just buy a gtx 470 for cheap and overclock it. When it comes down to it, these cards are essentially using 'weak' gtx 470s. So even a regular say palit gtx 470 should clock higher and at lower voltages than these cards. But that's assuming of course the temperatures are in control...makes me wish MSi sold the Twin Frozr separately
Do you mean this?

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=pro...6&prod_no=2009

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And for those of you guys having problems with msi afterburner 2.0 and locked voltage, did you try to select the 'Unlock voltage control' option in settings? On the first tab (General) under 'Safety properties'. After restarting afterburner the voltage control was unlocked
Of course, and that doesn't fix it.

Afterburner 2.0 doesn't seem to recognize the voltage unlock capabilities of the 470 Twin Frozr II BIOS for some reason.
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I think he meant the cooler itself.
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Hehe actually yea like Droogie said, I meant only the twin frozr cooler assembly itself

At the price I paid for the 465 GE I might as well have went with the gtx 470 twin frozr that you linked to for about $30 more. For the people who were lucky enough to jump on the newegg deal and actually got a decent clocking card really got lucky. I honestly picked up this card only for it's cooler.

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Of course, and that doesn't fix it.

Afterburner 2.0 doesn't seem to recognize the voltage unlock capabilities of the 470 Twin Frozr II BIOS for some reason.
Yes you are 100% right. Oversight on my part. That worked only before I flashed the card with the 470 frozr bios. Now like you said, no more voltage control
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