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Yes, and different disc drives. I have a Samsung Blu-Ray drive and a Lite-On DVD-RW drive. I've tried watching with both PowerDVD and Window Media Player as well. Same experience in both. It's also happened while streaming via Netflix which is leading me to believe it to be a card thing.

I may try to replace my mini-HDMI to HDMI cable as well. It was a cheapo $5 cable I got from amazon.com.
If you decide to buy a new cable, then be sure to check out MonoPrice.com. They have top-of-the-line cables at extremely low prices because you're actually getting what you paid for instead of a bunch of extra things that have no real value, such as fancy packaging, fancy logos, fancy artwork, fancy advertising, etc., etc. I mean, it's just the cable which is all we are really after anyway.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10242
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Monoprice. Thats who I was trying to think of. Lot of people like them.
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See results in the post below
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Just a heads up. Don't buy from ANTOline. They're like a garage sale. Once you buy thats it. Here's the email they sent back to me after I told them the card's heatsink was banged up, but no sign of impact on the box or plastic cover. Also said the card was messed up. I admit I jumped the gun on that.


"We are sure the manufacturer will be happy to help you under the manufacturer's product warranty. Please contact the manufacturer directly for warranty support if applicable.

From our published terms and conditions:

Each product is fully guaranteed by the manufacturer (unless specifically stated otherwise). The complete warranty is included with the product. The manufacturer's warranty covers repair or replacement of defective parts, subject to the conditions set forth.

http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=html&name=aboutus



* U.S.A.
* Canada
* Latin America
* Mexico

MSI Computer (Canada) Ltd.
Tel:
Technical Support:
AIO & Notebook: 1-888-447-6564
VGA & Motherboard: 1-626-913-0828 Option 1
RMA Department: 1-905-707-1880 Option 0
Sales & Marketing Department: 1-626-913-0828 ext. 220
Fax: 1-905-707-6974
Website: http://us.msi.com/
Repair Center Address:
MSI Canada Notebook Repair Center (West Coast):
170 - 4611 Viking Way
Richmond, British Columbia, V6V 2K9
MSI Canada RMA Service Center (East Coast):
Unit 13, 120 West Beaver Creek Rd.
Richmond Hill, Ontario, L4B 2L1

MSI Miami Corp.
Tel: +1-305-591-2229
Fax: +1-305-591-9929
Website: http://latam.msi.com/

MSI Computer Corp. (Mexico Office)
Tel: +52-55-3539-8119
Fax: +52-55-5119-5126
Website: http://mx.msi.com/

MSI Computer Corp. (L.A. Office)
Tel: 1-626-913-0828
Technical Support: (Hours: 9:00 AM ~ 9:00 PM EST)
AIO & Notebook: 1-888-447-6564
VGA & Motherboard: 1-626-913-0828 Option 1
RMA Department: 1-626-913-0828 Option 2
[e-mail address removed]
Sales Department: 1-626-913-0828 Option 3
[e-mail address removed]
Marketing Department: 1-626-913-0828 Option 4
[e-mail address removed]
Rebate Center:
[e-mail address removed]
Fax:
Technical Support & RMA: 1-626-581-1551
Sales & Marketing: 1-626-913-0818
HR Department: 1-626-913-0819
Accounting Department:1-626-913-0



I see it this way. If you're a company that sells things, then YOU are showing that YOU are backing the things you sale.
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krazzymoose, thanks for the link. Looks like the 465 unlocked to 470 yeilds about a 5850 or a 460 OC in performance? Seems like they are all within 10-15% of each other?

I'm a fan of Nvidia, I guess I'll wait for my MSI Hawk to go down in price or try to find a GE for cheaper than $250.
No need to complicate things ... the 465 GE unlocked performs EXACTLY like a 470, because that's what it is. With these cards decently overclocked, OC'd 460's aren't going to touch them ... maybe on LN2 they might, but certainly not on air. The architectural advantages of the 470 are basically too significant ...

Now ... I have noticed we seem to need slightly higher voltages on these cards vs. those on the 'real' 470's, but the top OC's (at least those by the people who know what they're doing ) seem very comparable to what people get with 470's.
    
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So is anyone willing to buy one of these cards and post it to uk for me?
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I see it this way. If you're a company that sells things, then YOU are showing that YOU are backing the things you sale.
But some stores just aren't big enough to handle these kind of returns (not enough employees). It would be no different if I were to decide to open up my own business selling computer hardware: I wouldn't accept these kind of returns either because I just wouldn't have enough manpower to handle it.
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Reserved for some 16x/16x vs 16x/4x SLI comparison numbers
Looking forward to 'em
    
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these guys have great deals too
http://www.riteav.com/

also these GE cards will definitively beat a 460.
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16x/16x vs 16x/4x SLI comparison numbers My two cards are sandwiched in 16x/16x mode due to the placement of the pci-e slots. Doing some testing by moving the second card down to the 4x slot. Doing so will greatly improve my bad temps, but how would it affect my performance? Results below


Current clocks (750/1500/1850). 75% fan



Vantage (1920x1200 performance):

16x/16x - 32698 78C/61C (top card, bottom card)
16x/4x - 30973 63C/61C
Result - 5.3% performance loss. 15C drop in temps for the top card!


Just Cause 2 - Concrete Jungle (1920x1200 max settings, 4x AA, 16x AF)

16x/16x - 72.35 fps avg 74C/59C
16x/4x - 68.28 fps avg 59C/58C
Result - 5.7% performance loss. 15C drop in temps for the top card


Mafia 2 (1920x1200, max settings, physx high)

16x/16x - 51.2 fps avg 70C/57C
16x/4x (physx set to 16x card) - 51.5 fps avg 56/55C
Result - Same fps as 16x/16x. I guess since physx is a bottleneck here, the pci-e bandwidth didn't come into play. Huge drops in temps like the other tests


Dirt 2 (1920x1200, max settings, 4x AA, 16x AF)

16x/16x - 134.8 fps avg 74C/59C
16x/4x -132.1 fps avg 61/60C
Result - 2% performance loss. Not really much of a change here. Same type of temperature decrease.


Overall not too bad at all. IMO the drops in temps are worth the slight loss in performance. The performance can easily be made up by the extra overclocking headroom gained.
Edited by h220wnzj00 - 9/7/10 at 11:37pm
    
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