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By using the BIOS that came with your card.

However, what if it's just as simple as this: the card is manufactured with the intention of selling it as a GTX 470. They test it but it doesn't meet their standards. It receives a GTX 465s BIOS. In a sense, this BIOS has limited eyesight: it can't see everything on the card: it's only capable of recognizing everything that it's programmed to look for and can't see past that.

So then a customer gets a hold of this card and flashes it with a GTX 470s BIOS. This BIOS is programmed to look for (and use) everything on the card, and therefore has a greater field of vision than the GTX 465's BIOS (so to speak, that is).

So then let's say that the customer runs into financial trouble and just decides to return the card. So, they flash it with a GTX 465's BIOS and send it back. The GTX 465's BIOS "knows" the specifications of the GTX 465, and therefore they should all have the same limited range of vision that the original BIOS had so to speak, right? I mean, as long as the BIOS has the same specifications, then I don't see how it can be any more complex than this.

In other words, I don't look at this whole thing as "unlocking", or "locking", or "locked" and "unlocked". If it's able to work with a GTX 470's BIOS, then I see it being as simple as this: the card is a GTX 470 that gets shipped with a GTX 465's BIOS which means the owner of that card can just flash it to a GTX 470 and then tweak it a little bit so that it's comfortable being a GTX 470.


If a GTX 465 has 8 memory chips on it, then it is not a GTX 470 and therefore it will not accept a GTX 470's BIOS. In other words, if a GTX 465 has 8 memory chips, then it is not "unlockable".

But even if it has 10 memory chips, the GPU itself still has to be a true GTX 470. Fortunately, the vast majority of these Golden Edition cards have a true GTX 470's GPU on the card in addition to the 10 memory chips.

So, MSI 465 TF2 GE №1126 isn't unlock
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So, MSI 465 TF2 GE №1126 isn't unlock
If it only has 8 memory chips, then no. :/
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I just unlocked my 2 cards! #'s 1981 and 2159.

I used the "Step-by-Step Unlocking Guide for GTX465 Golden Edition" instructions linked on the first post. So thanks for everyone who contributed.

Now I am off to bench, I will follow up with some pre/post flash benchy scores.
Updated spreadsheets.


So that's the first North-of-2000-card that has been recorded here on OCN. Nice!
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So, MSI 465 TF2 GE №1126 isn't unlock

Id trust my eye over a program. You need to physically look. What revision does gpuz say?
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Id trust my eye over a program. You need to physically look. What revision does gpuz say?
Unfortunately, the revision alone isn't enough proof. The GPU itself has to have this printed on it: "GF100-275-A3". If it says that, then it's a GTX 470 chip. But if it says "GF100-030-A3", then it's just a GTX 465 chip.
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I just unlocked my 2 cards! #'s 1981 and 2159.

I used the "Step-by-Step Unlocking Guide for GTX465 Golden Edition" instructions linked on the first post. So thanks for everyone who contributed.

Now I am off to bench, I will follow up with some pre/post flash benchy scores.

You wouldnt happen to have a picture of that 2159?? would you? Pardon my skepticism.
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Unfortunately, the revision alone isn't enough proof. The GPU itself has to have this printed on it: "GF100-275-A3". If it says that, then it's a GTX 470 chip. But if it says "GF100-030-A3", then it's just a GTX 465 chip.
To further clarify, 275 and 030 are the revisions ... and you can only see that by looking at the chip. Dunno what RS is talking about with looking at the revisions in GPU-Z. Can't see it there.
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To further clarify, 275 and 030 are the revisions ... and you can only see that by looking at the chip. Dunno what RS is talking about with looking at the revisions in GPU-Z. Can't see it there.
GPU-Z says that the revision is A3, but it's wrong.
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I know. I just counted ten mem and went off of A3 and chanced it.. LOL. I didnt want ro remove the paste.
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I know. I just counted ten mem and went off of A3 and chanced it.. LOL. I didnt want ro remove the paste.
lol I did the same thing, except I didn't even look at GPU-Z! Plus, another exception is that I thought the rule was just that if it had 10 memory chips, then it was good to go! So, since mine works, I feel pretty lucky now.
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