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Valid point, I don't think GPU manufacturer's intend on their product to be used at 99% for an extended period of time.

I've been playing around with OCCT this morning, while putting off going to work, I started overclocking the card at 700 mhz, memory core up to 1700 mhz, passed 10 min GPU test fine. I increased GPU core clock in increments of 25 mhz, and now i'm up to 775 mhz, with memory at 1800 mhz, and just passed OCCT GPU test with no errors.

I think it could probably go higher, but I'm happy with those results for now, I really do have to get ready for work. I mean it was pretty stable with NCspecV81's modded BIOS, and you all ready know what that is clocked at.

I'm really happy with this card, especially since I bought it off eBay "open box" from NCIX. I had read on their forums about a lot of people sending theirs back, and them selling ones that didn't unlock, so I didn't even expect to get one that would unlock without artifacing, or being unstable.

I am kind of pissed that the next guy that bought one from NCIX off ebay got his for 179.99 + 15 shipping. That's $50 cheaper than what my auction ended for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_3343wt_1124

Although in the description of my item it did say 1280 MB, and 320-bit bus, and his says 1024 MB, so perhaps that was their way of letting me know I could unlock it.
I noticed that card end also at only $179.99, I too was pissed . But I didn't even notice the difference in description like you pointed out. And yea I'm almost 100% certain you are right; yours unlocks while that cheaper one probably does not.

That's a more than adequate overclock right there to be honest. I'm running my card at 773/1546/1827 at 1.012mV (773 also just happens to be my area code as well lol so lame). What voltages are you using there to get to 775MHz Core? Try to get the voltage as low as possible, even if you have to run the card slightly under your desired overclock e.g. 756MHz vs 775MHz.

Glad you actually considered my advice and started using OCCT. Most people seem to STILL believe they are stable if they pass 20 mins of Kombusor or Furmark. From my experience, OCCT is the toughtest test and ultimately an accurate determinant of a truly stable overclock. And since it runs for such a short period of time you are not putting nearly as much stress on it as say Kombustor or Furmark running for 20 mins + at a time. That's seriously killing your hardware no joke.

BTW Don't miss work for this geeky stuff man! lol but seriously I'd be happy to have that card at that price. Enjoy
Edited by spoolindsm127 - 9/29/10 at 11:08am
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Rigged up fo sho. Time for a bigger case.


looks like a rat moved in lol

for just a few dollars more...
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looks like a rat moved in lol

for just a few dollars more...

I don't see $340 there. Maybe $120 max.


Going with the HAF X.
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Just got my card today from ewiz, #2145. Unlocks to full 470. Looked brand new and unopened. No clear protective film.

As a 465 it was running at .925mV. After unlocking to 470 using MSI Twin Frozr II bios card was running at .912mV! This one's definitely a keeper
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I noticed that card end also at only $179.99, I too was pissed . But I didn't even notice the difference in description like you pointed out. And yea I'm almost 100% certain you are right; yours unlocks while that cheaper one probably does not.

That's a more than adequate overclock right there to be honest. I'm running my card at 773/1546/1827 at 1.012mV (773 also just happens to be my area code as well lol so lame). What voltages are you using there to get to 775MHz Core? Try to get the voltage as low as possible, even if you have to run the card slightly under your desired overclock e.g. 756MHz vs 775MHz.

Glad you actually considered my advice and started using OCCT. Most people seem to STILL believe they are stable if they pass 20 mins of Kombusor or Furmark. From my experience, OCCT is the toughtest test and ultimately an accurate determinant of a truly stable overclock. And since it runs for such a short period of time you are not putting nearly as much stress on it as say Kombustor or Furmark running for 20 mins + at a time. That's seriously killing your hardware no joke.

BTW Don't miss work for this geeky stuff man! lol but seriously I'd be happy to have that card at that price. Enjoy
I was using 1.025, simply because that is what the stock msi 470 bios yielded me. I'll try to get that lower, and find an overclock I like. My CPU may very well be bottlenecking my 470 as it is, so I'm not sure how much I really need to overclock. The reason I say this is because when I overclock, and unlock my CPU I get significantly better benchmark results.

I just tried lowering my voltage down to 1.012, and running OCCT with the same clocks as this morning, and it was artifacing. I just ran a test at 760/1520/1700, and it passed, no errors. I should probably try to get my memory clock a bit higher, but I'm happy with that. I read somewhere that there is a threshold for performance and GPU clocks, and once you pass that you don't really game that significant enough in-game performance to justify the overclock.

I am going to have to compare my FPS benchmarks to an i7 build, to see if it's worth replacing my CPU, Mobo, RAM, PSU and changing platforms. Right now my $70 dollar CPU, and $70 mobo are doing the trick.

[edit] I just solved my debate on whether or not to replace my current platform with an i7 rig by grabbing another one of these cards "open-box" off newegg. Hopefully it's a descent one, I guess I'll have 30 days to find out.
Edited by anubis1127 - 9/29/10 at 8:46pm
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So i bought an open box GE off of newegg, it's a great card and all but when i got entered on the spreadsheet i noticed something weird. I have #0612 and so does Psyborg....after looking around a bit i found this http://www.overclock.net/10528118-post3027.html seems psyborg didn't want the card, and i got his.
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Just got my card today from ewiz, #2145. Unlocks to full 470. Looked brand new and unopened. No clear protective film.

As a 465 it was running at .925mV. After unlocking to 470 using MSI Twin Frozr II bios card was running at .912mV! This one's definitely a keeper
Wow! That's huge!
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I was using 1.025, simply because that is what the stock msi 470 bios yielded me. I'll try to get that lower, and find an overclock I like. My CPU may very well be bottlenecking my 470 as it is, so I'm not sure how much I really need to overclock. The reason I say this is because when I overclock, and unlock my CPU I get significantly better benchmark results.

I just tried lowering my voltage down to 1.012, and running OCCT with the same clocks as this morning, and it was artifacing. I just ran a test at 760/1520/1700, and it passed, no errors. I should probably try to get my memory clock a bit higher, but I'm happy with that. I read somewhere that there is a threshold for performance and GPU clocks, and once you pass that you don't really game that significant enough in-game performance to justify the overclock.

I am going to have to compare my FPS benchmarks to an i7 build, to see if it's worth replacing my CPU, Mobo, RAM, PSU and changing platforms. Right now my $70 dollar CPU, and $70 mobo are doing the trick.

[edit] I just solved my debate on whether or not to replace my current platform with an i7 rig by grabbing another one of these cards "open-box" off newegg. Hopefully it's a descent one, I guess I'll have 30 days to find out.
I agree with you regarding the threshold for overclocking. I can't give a definite # but for me it was around 1800MHz on the memory and around 800MHz for the core. Past this point there was a minimal increase in performance plus voltage needed to be increased more frequently.

Looking at your system specs, maybe an sli setup would be the cheaper option. However like you said, you will most likely suffer from a CPU bottleneck. Try putting together a used system, use ebay and craigslist to find cheap parts. I upgraded from a phenom x4 to a i7 and will never look back. Worth the investment IMO.
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I don't see $340 there. Maybe $120 max.


Going with the HAF X.
nah I was kidding. Lan Li is quality though I love my 7FW.

this is probably the best deal.
Edited by krazzymoose - 9/29/10 at 10:37pm
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looks like a rat moved in lol

for just a few dollars more...
Always been a big fan of Lian Li cases, ever since I got my first PC-60 with a clear side panel. Wish I had $340 to spend on a case, my PC-A17B is already "out-dated" by design... I still love it tho looks better than a HAF X any day
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