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That was completely my mistake...you are 100% right. After making that last post I got to searching and realized that nvflash -9 is same as nvflash --eraseeeprom. So basically you can use either or. Sorry for the confusion
Oh, so it's exactly the same. Since I never tried it, I kinda assumed it was just similar.

I looked in NVFLASH's help list and there's no mention of "9", but there's also no mention of "4" either!
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Ok, I'll try all that when I get home from work today.

In the event I purchased one of the very few that aren't able to unlock, I would need some advice:

Would I keep it and OC it?

Or should I try to sell it and just get a 470?

Basically, I'm asking what the 465 OC is like compared to the 470. I'd like to have the better cooler, but if getting a 470 and OC'ing it is vastly superior, then I have a decision to make
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Ok, I'll try all that when I get home from work today.

In the event I purchased one of the very few that aren't able to unlock, I would need some advice:

Would I keep it and OC it?

Or should I try to sell it and just get a 470?

Basically, I'm asking what the 465 OC is like compared to the 470. I'd like to have the better cooler, but if getting a 470 and OC'ing it is vastly superior, then I have a decision to make
If it doesn't unlock, that is unfortunately, and I would sell it. An OC'd 465 could probably keep up with a stock 470, but that'd have to be a hell of a good OC. At that point I would probably look to abandon the 465 because the extra power consumption doesn't justify it's performance.

If you do sell it, and can't afford the $300-350 price tag of a gtx 470, you could go with a msi gtx 460 HAWK. The 460 performs better than a 465 at stock speeds, and that card OC's extremely well from what I've heard. A gtx 460 @ 800 mhz core peforms right around a stock gtx 470, and that HAWK can go anywhere from 900-1000mhz from what I've read. I don't personally own one, so I cannot attest to that, but I'm sure you could find another forum mentioning that card.

That is only if it doesn't unlock, hopefully when you get home, you can find a BIOS that works for you. I am using the msi gtx 470 twin frozr II bios, and haven't had any issues so far. If you haven't tried that one, there is a link for it back a few pages.
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Someone here had a download package, I used that.

Made the bootable usb drive
Loaded the listed files on to it
- Autoexec.bat didn't show up, but when I attempted to put it over there again it gave me the "do you want to replace..." jargon. It's a hidden file, but that was enough confirmation for me that it was there.

The nvflash things were working. I said no to the initial question...

nvflash --eraseeeprom
nvflash ---4 -5 -6 470.rom
Warnings... yes, yes, yes
Success

ctrl-alt-del to reboot, remove usb
Boots into windows
windows finds device and installs, asks to reboot, reboot.
Starting windows screen shows, completes.
Then nothing. The back light of my monitor is on, so it reads some sort of signal, but nothing appears.

When I go back to reflash, I get more errors than the first time. I forget exactly what it says, but it says basically that the codes in the firmware and on the board are not matching (CC16 and CC21 maybe?).

I've tried three BIOS, all with the same result. msi 470 twin frozr, reference 470, and the one that everyone loves the hell out of because of the voltage mod.

I also had the mind to check GPU-Z BEFORE I rebooted windows for the driver install, and it shows as a 470, but some of the fields are "unavailable", including the RAM count box.



Yeah I've heard you say that before, but I'm not about to remove this cooler to check :/ Never done it before, though now I'm wondering if it might be worth the trouble.


I can sense your frustration here. When you get a chance, try booting to safe mode and check if you can get a gui and launch device manager or even GPUz and see if it's detecting the card as 470.

Also you said you bought the card from a trustworthy source, did you ask or did he tell you if this card is unlockable? Or you bought it "as is" basis?
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If it doesn't unlock, that is unfortunately, and I would sell it. An OC'd 465 could probably keep up with a stock 470, but that'd have to be a hell of a good OC. At that point I would probably look to abandon the 465 because the extra power consumption doesn't justify it's performance.

If you do sell it, and can't afford the $300-350 price tag of a gtx 470, you could go with a msi gtx 460 HAWK. The 460 performs better than a 465 at stock speeds, and that card OC's extremely well from what I've heard. A gtx 460 @ 800 mhz core peforms right around a stock gtx 470, and that HAWK can go anywhere from 900-1000mhz from what I've read. I don't personally own one, so I cannot attest to that, but I'm sure you could find another forum mentioning that card.

That is only if it doesn't unlock, hopefully when you get home, you can find a BIOS that works for you. I am using the msi gtx 470 twin frozr II bios, and haven't had any issues so far. If you haven't tried that one, there is a link for it back a few pages.

+1 here.

That's my sole purpose of buying this card - to be able to unlock it. Otherwise, I'll just gonna shell an extra cash buy a 470 (not 460). I got 2 460s @ SLI and my golden baby beats them at my preference.
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+1 here.

I got 2 460s @ SLI and my golden baby beats them at my preference.
What!? One card beating two in SLI?... very impressive indeed. I don't mean any disrespect, just curious, how did you test to see and compare performance between the single GE and 2x460 in SLI? Regardless my love for this card never stops growing

Also _s3v3n_ glad to see you got a killer of a replacement card (basically one of the best GEs out there). Hated seeing you having trouble with that dud of a first card you had

@ Cavi, if your 470 doesn't unlock just sell it and buy a real 470 or grab two 465s for SLI. Like others have mentioned, the cost of the card is worth it if it unlocks to a full470, otherwise it's not the wisest investment. Good luck
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I can sense your frustration here. When you get a chance, try booting to safe mode and check if you can get a gui and launch device manager or even GPUz and see if it's detecting the card as 470.

Also you said you bought the card from a trustworthy source, did you ask or did he tell you if this card is unlockable? Or you bought it "as is" basis?
He said he simply didn't know, he only popped it in his system to check if it worked I think? Then he said he checked and there were in fact 10 memory chips on it.

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+1 here.

That's my sole purpose of buying this card - to be able to unlock it. Otherwise, I'll just gonna shell an extra cash buy a 470 (not 460). I got 2 460s @ SLI and my golden baby beats them at my preference.
That's what I'm thinking as well. There's a used 470 in the FS section I might just jump on if the performance is that much better than a 465 OC'd.
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Im intrigued to know how a single 465, can outperform 2x 460 in SLi. ALl the benchmarks ive seen put the 460 SLi on par with a single 480, out performing a single 470 in almost every way...

Sorry for OT
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What!? One card beating two in SLI... very impressive indeed. I don't mean any disrespect, just curious, how did you test to see and compare performance between the single GE and 2x460 in SLI? Regardless my love for this card never stops growing

_s3v3n_ glad to see you found basically the best GE you can possibly find. Hated seeing you having trouble with that dud of a first card you had
- None taken -
I mentioned "at my preference" means my GE feels and looks better(faster,better graphics) on BC2. That's the only thing I noticed so far that's why I said at my preference.

Even @ SLI, using these 2 460s seems to give me hiccups (pause when gaming), but not the GE.

I actually have the 460s 768mb version so it's worth mentioning.
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Im intrigued to know how a single 465, can outperform 2x 460 in SLi. ALl the benchmarks ive seen put the 460 SLi on par with a single 480, out performing a single 470 in almost every way...

Sorry for OT

You're probably looking at two 460s (1gb version) @ SLI benchmarks.
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