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So I'm guessing my card at 800/1600/1800 @ 0.987V is pretty good?
that is sweet as many have said A True "Golden " Card
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I prefer my higher core at 850-1700-1750 @ 1.025v. It's cooking. LOL
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I prefer my higher core at 850-1700-1750 @ 1.025v. It's cooking. LOL
Nice, that's what my stock VID is, lol. I guess that's what I get for buying an "open-box", i.e. card somebody returned because it didn't overclock as well as the other one they bought.

That being said, I'm still really happy with my card, for $230(after I sold my 2nd one that didn't OC well at all). I came from a hd4670-->hd4870-->gtx470, so it's dramatically better than both of those cards. To think this new hobby stemmed from me just wanting to play nba 2k10 on my oem gateway. Needless to say nba 2k11 runs flawless on my new rig.
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Yeah, I'm using 1.6.1 as well, and my VID was .962 starting out. I've upped the VID (what I'm assuming is the voltage?) to .975 because I had stability problems right off the bat. Seems to be doing ok at the moment. Also, is it best to leave core and shader locked like it is? I'm assuming so, but just thought I would ask.

vid .975 650/1300/1675
It's only considered to be the VID prior to changing it. After that, it becomes the voltage. This is because we are basically saying it's the VID because we haven't touched it, and so if that's where it is before altering it, then that must be the VID. But it's always the voltage regardless of whether or not we call that unaltered voltage the VID.

So you can leave the voltage set to the VID, or you can move it away from it. It's kinda like calling the 3.0 GHz of my E8400 the "stock" clock.
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It's only considered to be the VID prior to changing it. After that, it becomes the voltage. This is because we are basically saying it's the VID because we haven't touched it, and so if that's where it is before altering it, then that must be the VID. But it's always the voltage regardless of whether or not we call that unaltered voltage the VID.

So you can leave the voltage set to the VID, or you can move it away from it. It's kinda like calling the 3.0 GHz of my E8400 the "stock" clock.
I'm really just going to jump in here on accounta our favorite thread has dropped off the front page for the first time in like two months ... that I've seen

But just to clarify ... VID stands for Voltage IDentifier. It's more or less a 'code' for an actual voltage, one which the voltage regulator understands.

In very simple terms, imagine there's a table like this:

VID Voltage
001 1.00V
002 1.0125V
003 1.025V
004 1.0375V

When you choose 1.025V through whatever interface, what's actually happening is the VID of 003 is sent to the voltage regulator, which it interprets and sets a voltage that (should) corresponds to 1.025V.

The implementation of such VID's is what's responsible for the voltage 'stepping' like what's in my table there, e.g. you can't choose a voltage between 1.000V and 1.025V because there's no corresponding VID between those two voltages.

When you alter your voltage, you are also altering your chosen VID, in fact it's through changing VID's that voltage changes actually occur, because the VRM's don't really understand 'voltages', what they understand is VID's.

So, VID's are just codified representations of voltages. In a certain sense they're synonymous because there's a 1:1 relationship, but in another way they are not ... because a VID is not the ACTUAL voltage. It's an identifier of a voltage.

Do you follow me?
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I'm really just going to jump in here on accounta our favorite thread has dropped off the front page for the first time in like two months ... that I've seen

But just to clarify ... VID stands for Voltage IDentifier. It's more or less a 'code' for an actual voltage, one which the voltage regulator understands.

In very simple terms, imagine there's a table like this:

VID Voltage
001 1.00V
002 1.0125V
003 1.025V
004 1.0375V

When you choose 1.025V through whatever interface, what's actually happening is the VID of 003 is sent to the voltage regulator, which it interprets and sets a voltage that (should) corresponds to 1.025V.

The implementation of such VID's is what's responsible for the voltage 'stepping' like what's in my table there, e.g. you can't choose a voltage between 1.000V and 1.025V because there's no corresponding VID between those two voltages.

When you alter your voltage, you are also altering your chosen VID, in fact it's through changing VID's that voltage changes actually occur, because the VRM's don't really understand 'voltages', what they understand is VID's.

So, VID's are just codified representations of voltages. In a certain sense they're synonymous because there's a 1:1 relationship, but in another way they are not ... because a VID is not the ACTUAL voltage. It's an identifier of a voltage.

Do you follow me?
Ahh, thanks for clarifying.
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I'm really just going to jump in here on accounta our favorite thread has dropped off the front page for the first time in like two months ... that I've seen
I wish I could pay more attention to this thread but I've been dealing with a family emergency for the last 3 weeks and I've had an abundance of assignments from 5 different CS courses.

Hopefully I'll get back on track soon and be able to participate in this thread. Not that it's needed, we've got plenty of helpful OCN users in here.

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But just to clarify ... VID stands for Voltage IDentifier. It's more or less a 'code' for an actual voltage, one which the voltage regulator understands.

In very simple terms, imagine there's a table like this:

VID Voltage
001 1.00V
002 1.0125V
003 1.025V
004 1.0375V

When you choose 1.025V through whatever interface, what's actually happening is the VID of 003 is sent to the voltage regulator, which it interprets and sets a voltage that (should) corresponds to 1.025V.

The implementation of such VID's is what's responsible for the voltage 'stepping' like what's in my table there, e.g. you can't choose a voltage between 1.000V and 1.025V because there's no corresponding VID between those two voltages.

When you alter your voltage, you are also altering your chosen VID, in fact it's through changing VID's that voltage changes actually occur, because the VRM's don't really understand 'voltages', what they understand is VID's.

So, VID's are just codified representations of voltages. In a certain sense they're synonymous because there's a 1:1 relationship, but in another way they are not ... because a VID is not the ACTUAL voltage. It's an identifier of a voltage.

Do you follow me?
You sir, are a human dictionary. Thanks for the clarification on VID.
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How'd you get a gtx260 from microcenter for 65?? The one by me only has an open box BFG for $125. That's disappointing that the 8800gts didn't do anything for you. I was thinking of adding a phsyx card, but was going to use a quadro NVS 295 I have sitting around, but if you're 8800 gts wasn't great, I'm sure that would be worse.
They had it on the 50% off yellow tag. I ordered another for instore the other day, but they were all out. "Instore" didn't reflect any 50% off's instore. But I still got one for half the 125 none-the-less.

A few comments on #1932. The Physx hasn't done anything, it went up to 10% usage on my secondary Physx. But what it did do is make my card run up to 99degrees C! Now that is hot! hot as my old AIW x1900 I used to have (singleslot) was a total gem, but couldn't handle anything higher than 100.
This card was handling the extra heat from the second card just fine!
And now this card up at 90 or 100 or something like that, and it didn't even lock up....!!!! Nvidia!
Oh btw, physx, on afterburner wasn't reporting anything. And overclocks were great out of the BFG, at least they've been great so far.
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Woooohooo just unlocked my card..was sweatin it out for some time. Never did anything like this before. Thanks to all the useful information provided in this forum even a noob like me was able to unlock my card. Thanks to everyone who contributed..too many to mention.
    
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