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Originally Posted by shremi View Post
LOL, sorry if i don't explain really well my stuff i am not from the US.

Yeah after windows 7 was installed i ran the windows 7 update and it installed the forcware 258.96. and since it didn't installed the nvidia control panel i poped the dvd that came with the card and installed the control panel.

Should i reinstall using this ???
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Window...glish_whql.exe

Thanks
Shremi
2 Things Shermi:
1. Never use Microsoft drivers for your videocards!
2. Never use the driver cd that comes with your videocard.
just go to nvidia.com and dl the latest gtx 470 drivers. I have a question though, does windows detect your videocard as a 470 or a 465?
post #4302 of 5083
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Originally Posted by shremi View Post
LOL, sorry if i don't explain really well my stuff i am not from the US.

Yeah after windows 7 was installed i ran the windows 7 update and it installed the forcware 258.96. and since it didn't installed the nvidia control panel i poped the dvd that came with the card and installed the control panel.

Should i reinstall using this ???
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Window...glish_whql.exe

Thanks
Shremi
Absolutely. But first, if I may, I recommend doing this:
  1. Install Driver Sweeper
  2. Delete the C:\\NVIDIA folder (it's a temporary folder, so this is safe)
  3. Uninstall all of the NVIDIA stuff in the Programs and Features control panel. This includes that Stereoscopic 3D driver (actually, always uninstall this after every update you do unless you really do use that high-tech 3D vision stuff)
  4. Open Device Manager and look for "Display adapters". It shouldn't be there after performing Step 3 above, but if it's there then expand it, right-click your card and choose Uninstall
  5. Reboot into Safe Mode
  6. Once in Safe Mode, open Driver Sweeper (open the Start menu and type Driver Sweeper and then press Enter)
  7. Select "NVIDIA - Display"
  8. Click "Clean"
  9. Close Driver Sweeper
  10. Reboot back into the normal mode of Windows
  11. Once back in Windows, install 258.96_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.ex e

If Windows Update offers you a driver update for the graphics card, then right-click the update and choose "Hide". Try to avoid installing any drivers offered by Windows Update.

Actually, before you do any of this, I recommend going into the Settings for Windows Update and changing it to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them". This gives you absolutely complete control over it.
Edited by TwoCables - 10/15/10 at 10:39pm
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I would say yes. There is a good chance you are seeing issues because the NVidia Control Panel version you are using is older than the Driver you are using and probably not compatible. As a rule of thumb you should never download video card drivers through windows update.
Thanks for the tip i will keep that in mind. You always learn something new everyday.

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Originally Posted by k4d View Post
2 Things Shermi:
1. Never use Microsoft drivers for your videocards!
2. Never use the driver cd that comes with your videocard.
just go to nvidia.com and dl the latest gtx 470 drivers. I have a question though, does windows detect your videocard as a 470 or a 465?
I am still a noob in all of this windows stuff i have been in the mac world for a while now. Everyone uses their hackintosh to get into the mac world but in my case i used to get into windows.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Absolutely. But first, if I may, I recommend doing this:
  1. Install Driver Sweeper
  2. Delete the C:\\NVIDIA folder (it's a temporary folder, so this is safe)
  3. Uninstall all of the NVIDIA stuff in the Programs and Features control panel. This includes that Stereoscopic 3D driver (actually, always uninstall this after every update you do unless you really do use that high-tech 3D vision stuff)
  4. Open Device Manager and look for "Display adapters". It shouldn't be there after performing Step 3 above, but if it's there then expand it, right-click your card and choose Uninstall
  5. Reboot into Safe Mode
  6. Once in Safe Mode, open Driver Sweeper (open the Start menu and type Driver Sweeper and then press Enter)
  7. Select "NVIDIA - Display"
  8. Click "Clean"
  9. Close Driver Sweeper
  10. Reboot back into the normal mode of Windows
  11. Once back in Windows, install 258.96_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.ex e

If Windows Update offers you a driver update for the graphics card, then right-click the update and choose "Hide". Try to avoid installing any drivers offered by Windows Update.

Actually, before you do any of this, I recommend going into the Settings for Windows Update and changing it to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them". This gives you absolutely complete control over it.
Thanks i will give it a try on monday morning since my pc is in the office and let you all know how did it went.

+ REP to everyone for helping a noob out.
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You're welcome! I guarantee that as long as you follow those instructions verbatim, then it'll be easy.

Just in case: to get into Safe Mode, hold down F8 during the time period where the motherboard transitions into loading Windows . So press and hold F8 right before it begins loading Windows, and then continue holding it until you see the option to boot into Safe Mode.
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Ok so i want to report that i did everything as you said. Uninstalled the drivers and re-installed them but i got the same crashes when running the 3d mark vantage test.

My voltage (mv) in afterburner is 962 , what do you recommend me to do ?
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Ok so i want to report that i did everything as you said. Uninstalled the drivers and re-installed them but i got the same crashes when running the 3d mark vantage test.

My voltage (mv) in afterburner is 962 , what do you recommend me to do ?
Sorry to see you're having problems. I didn't read through everything but did you try increasing your voltage? Hopefully you don't have bad memory?

updated- Maybe try installing the beta drivers. I'm running them and so far they are working out for me. They have a built in uninstall feature on them.

Just noticed the 260 drivers are out, try that one. They also have a new beta.
Edited by eaglepowers - 10/18/10 at 10:02am
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Ok so i want to report that i did everything as you said. Uninstalled the drivers and re-installed them but i got the same crashes when running the 3d mark vantage test.

My voltage (mv) in afterburner is 962 , what do you recommend me to do ?
I don't have any specific numbers, but still; I think the voltage should be increased 1 strap at a time to see if the crashes stop happening. If you get to 1.087V and it doesn't change the behavior at all, then we may need to look elsewhere for the solution. But I don't know where.
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Ok so i turned up the voltage from 962 to 1037 and i was able to run the hole 4 tests in 3d mark vantage.

As i suspected my card needs a little tweaking to get more comfortable , i may try to flash another bios on the card , as im currently using the stock twin frozer bios.

So should i keep trying more bios??? or should i first test stability and then create my own bios ???

Edited by shremi - 10/18/10 at 10:18am
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Ok so i turned up the voltage from 962 to 1037 and i was able to run the hole 4 tests in 3d mark vantage.

As i suspected my card needs a little tweaking to get more comfortable , i may try to flash another bios on the card , as im currently using the stock twin frozer bios.

So should i keep trying more bios??? or should i first test stability and then create my own bios ???
Your bios should be fine. I had the same problem you did at first, and fixed it simply by changing the voltage from .962 up to .975. I would now try LOWERING your voltage, because that 1.037 is at the top end of where you want to be

EDIT for additional question...

does the EVGA backplate fit on this thing? Wasn't sure if this was a reference PCB or not.
Edited by Cavi - 10/18/10 at 12:24pm
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Your bios should be fine. I had the same problem you did at first, and fixed it simply by changing the voltage from .962 up to .975. I would now try LOWERING your voltage, because that 1.037 is at the top end of where you want to be

EDIT for additional question...

does the EVGA backplate fit on this thing? Wasn't sure if this was a reference PCB or not.
Hey cavi thanks for your response.

I have downed the Voltage , and i had stability. up until 985.

But i might try out this BIOS

http://www.overclock.net/10942029-post4218.html

Did you tried it ???

I just don't want apply my settings every time i boot into windows with afterburner.

So i think for starters this bios might work good for me. i am going to run some more test and see if this BIOS gives me stability.
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