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Hey cavi thanks for your response.

I have downed the Voltage , and i had stability. up until 985.

But i might try out this BIOS

http://www.overclock.net/10942029-post4218.html

Did you tried it ???

I just don't want apply my settings every time i boot into windows with afterburner.

So i think for starters this bios might work good for me. i am going to run some more test and see if this BIOS gives me stability.
I tried it with my older card to see if that would help me unlock it, but it didn't work out.

I didn't need to use that BIOS with the newer card that unlocked easily so I'm not using it now. I'm just using afterburner
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Hey cavi thanks for your response.

I have downed the Voltage , and i had stability. up until 985.

But i might try out this BIOS

http://www.overclock.net/10942029-post4218.html

Did you tried it ???

I just don't want apply my settings every time i boot into windows with afterburner.

So i think for starters this bios might work good for me. i am going to run some more test and see if this BIOS gives me stability.
I made that bios for a specific troubleshooting purpose ... helping out Cavi. You can try it if you want, but the voltage is a purposefully set quite high just to remove the possibility that a low VID is keeping the card from starting up.

If you want a good bios to try, I've attached the one I'm running presently 24/7.

It has the following characteristics:
Stock MSI GTX470 bios
700 core
1740 mem
1000mV
1.187 voltage cap removed

The reason I imagine it's a good fit for your card is that my stock VID was also .975 (which switched to .962 after flashing 470 bios) like yours. And mine also was not happy at .962V at stock settings.

Before flashing though you should set these clocks/volts via AB and make sure they're stable.
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I made that bios for a specific troubleshooting purpose ... helping out Cavi. You can try it if you want, but the voltage is a purposefully set quite high just to remove the possibility that a low VID is keeping the card from starting up.

If you want a good bios to try, I've attached the one I'm running presently 24/7.

It has the following characteristics:
Stock MSI GTX470 bios
700 core
1740 mem
1000mV
1.187 voltage cap removed

The reason I imagine it's a good fit for your card is that my stock VID was also .975 (which switched to .962 after flashing 470 bios) like yours. And mine also was not happy at .962V at stock settings.

Before flashing though you should set these clocks/volts via AB and make sure they're stable.
Hi Brett

Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately i tried with the specs you mentioned above , and i couldn't get 3dmark to pass the graphics test with the 1000Mv. I had to pull it up to 1020 to pass the tests. but the weirdest thing was that , the scores actually were a tad lower (20 points lower) than the scores form my stock clocks with the voltage turned up to 985.

As i mentioned above 975 did not agreed well with my card. With 985 i can pass the whole 4 tests in 3dmark without crashing.

Im starting to get this hole YMMV thing as every card is different and every card has different stability points.

What i am also a little bit concerned is that 3d mark is not really a stress program right ?? so i should run Furmark to test stability on my card. So are there any settings i should put into Furmark before i run the test??? Also for how long should i run the test??.

As i mentioned before i plan to start low on a Mild overclock and go from there on, and when i finally have my settings the way i want i should edit my bios. I don't know how hard this process might be so ill cross that bridge when i get there. But in the meantime can you recommend me some settings for a mild overclock ??

Thanks a ton for your time everyone.

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Your bios should be fine. I had the same problem you did at first, and fixed it simply by changing the voltage from .962 up to .975. I would now try LOWERING your voltage, because that 1.037 is at the top end of where you want to be

EDIT for additional question...

does the EVGA backplate fit on this thing? Wasn't sure if this was a reference PCB or not.
This is a reference PCB, so I would assume it fits. I don't have one to test that theory.
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Hi Brett

Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately i tried with the specs you mentioned above , and i couldn't get 3dmark to pass the graphics test with the 1000Mv. I had to pull it up to 1020 to pass the tests. but the weirdest thing was that , the scores actually were a tad lower (20 points lower) than the scores form my stock clocks with the voltage turned up to 985.

As i mentioned above 975 did not agreed well with my card. With 985 i can pass the whole 4 tests in 3dmark without crashing.

Im starting to get this hole YMMV thing as every card is different and every card has different stability points.

What i am also a little bit concerned is that 3d mark is not really a stress program right ?? so i should run Furmark to test stability on my card. So are there any settings i should put into Furmark before i run the test??? Also for how long should i run the test??.

As i mentioned before i plan to start low on a Mild overclock and go from there on, and when i finally have my settings the way i want i should edit my bios. I don't know how hard this process might be so ill cross that bridge when i get there. But in the meantime can you recommend me some settings for a mild overclock ??

Thanks a ton for your time everyone.

Shremi
To test stability I would recommend trying OCCT GPU test with "Error-Check". It seems to work pretty well for me, everything that has passed a 20-minute run of that has proven to be stable in gaming for me.

Running Furmark, and manually watching for artifacts, is not only monotonous,
but also hard on your card. I've had overclocks that I thought were stable in Kombustor, or Furmark, after not seeing any artifacts, and then have them fail the "error-check" on OCCT.

Brettjv's bios clock speeds are a pretty good 24/7 OC. "mild" I would say EVGA's SC bios clock speeds are pretty "mild", but I don't think that's good. I don't have mine overclocked currently, but when I do I set it @ 750/1500/1750, My memory sux at overclocking. Well my card sux at overclocking in general. I have to set the voltage @ 1.05V to acheive that OC. Without adjusting the voltage I can run my card @ 675/1700mhz, so I might make a custom BIOS for that if I feel like it some day.

Cheers!

[edit] I guess I should have multi-quoted those last 2 posts, sorry guys, I'm trying to get better at this.
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If anyone wants the bios I'm using, just pm me.
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If anyone wants the bios I'm using, just pm me.
Thanks again for sending me your bios. I never did get around to trying it because the bios I was using seemed to work fine, but man the OC you're able to get with your cards are amazing! You must be a really lucky guy or possess the golden touch.
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To test stability I would recommend trying OCCT GPU test with "Error-Check". It seems to work pretty well for me, everything that has passed a 20-minute run of that has proven to be stable in gaming for me.

Running Furmark, and manually watching for artifacts, is not only monotonous,
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Brettjv's bios clock speeds are a pretty good 24/7 OC. "mild" I would say EVGA's SC bios clock speeds are pretty "mild", but I don't think that's good. I don't have mine overclocked currently, but when I do I set it @ 750/1500/1750, My memory sux at overclocking. Well my card sux at overclocking in general. I have to set the voltage @ 1.05V to acheive that OC. Without adjusting the voltage I can run my card @ 675/1700mhz, so I might make a custom BIOS for that if I feel like it some day.

Cheers!

[edit] I guess I should have multi-quoted those last 2 posts, sorry guys, I'm trying to get better at this.
Thanks for the tip i will use OCCT instead , i don't know if my card also sucks @ overclocking but im starting to feel that it might.

BTW has any of you tried this new drivers ??

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html
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Thanks for the tip i will use OCCT instead , i don't know if my card also sucks @ overclocking but im starting to feel that it might.

BTW has any of you tried this new drivers ??

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html
Those are the ones I was telling you about earlier. I like them.
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Ok guys i really don't know whats wrong with my gpu. Any advice would be recommended.

The first time that i ran OCCT crashed at the first minute.

But i think i have been doing wrong all along, since i didn't allow afterburner to check the gpu temps and adjust the fans to the temps. First error checked.

Installed the new nvidia drivers, checked.

The second time i ran OCCT with the correct settings in afterburner, i went through a good 12 minutes , OCCT did reported like 270 errors and the drivers crashed.

I attach my current afterburner screen.

As you can see i am only running the stock twin frozer bios. with the voltage turned up to 987. I haven't started overclocking yet since my card isn't stable yet.

What can i do ??? Try out a different BIOS??? or crank up the voltage a little more ??? I really don't know what is causing my crashes.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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