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yea, you can start reading it here:
http://www.overclock.net/11632285-post4649.html

I think TwoCables is spot on as to what happened.

.....

Now, back to you...

I'm glad those links helped ya, the 560's are pretty sweet!

If you can sell your card for $180, AND the GE unlocks to a 470, that's your best right now until you get your new monitor, since it should only cost you $20! I'm sure you can get the guy down to $200.

Remember, if you get a 2nd 470, try to get the TFII or the Gigabyte Superclocked with the custom cooler, all other 470's get way too hot and loud IMO so take that into consideration 'cuz if they're the same price as 560's, I would go with the 560 route instead, you'll get better performance, guaranteed to be cool and quiet especially with the 560 TFII.

As far as the fan goes, I doubt 45% is enough for full loads, my fan runs at 45% on idle.

I use a custom profile in Afterburner so the fan speed automatically increases as the temps go up.

Here's the profile I use:



You can also Search This Thread to see what others are using, as I have the N470GTX TFII but the cards are pretty similar. With my card I rarely if ever go above 65C and that's using 64% fan speed.

Glad this helped ya, be sure to update and let us know how it goes.
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I'm so glad I joined this forum!

Again, thanks for the advice and the custom fan setup ss!

Yeah, for some reason I just like MSI's TwinFrozr cooling as they stay real quite, keep temps down by a great deal, and they just look sick!

Also, the PCB MSI uses on their GPUs are black, which fits nicely with my ASUS mobo's black PCB but I'm not so sure about the Gigabyte one.. thanks for the alternatives though.

Ugh, seems like I'm out of luck. I can only find out whether the GE here is unlocked AFTER purchasing it as the seller is not willing to open the unopened box.

I'm still so inclined to buy that bling though >_<!

Actually, is there any way I can send a 465 to MSI to unlock it? If that's the case I should go ahead buy the GE and see if it unlocks and if it doesn't, send it to MSI o_O or sell it again T_T
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The TFII is definitely an awesome cooler.

Most 465 GE's do unlock if they have all 10 memory chips, and there's no way to know unless you take the cooler off.

No, you can't send the card to MSI to unlock, as they are sold as 465's without any sort of guarantee that they will unlock to 470's.

If you won't have a problem reselling it, then I'd say go for it.

You may want to at least test the card to make sure it works though if you can.

Good luck and let us know how it works out!
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I have been reading a lot of posts but can't seem to find the answer to my question.

Does the Twin frozr II Golden edition cool better than the "normal" Twin frozr II cooler?

My first thought was, yes it cools better because copper takes up more heat. but it also has a harder time getting rid of that heat.

So far i have only found one article that answers my question and it says the full copper edition runs 3° hotter. But the article doesn't provide any data about the testing


The Msi site says nothing about the full copper edition cooling better (strange) and I can't find any reviews of the twin frozr II Golden Edition.

It's weird that I can't find any comparison between the coolers. It's like people only care about the OC potential and that you can unlock it. I want to know about the Temp/Noise of this full copper cooler compared to the "normal" edition.
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I have been reading a lot of posts but can't seem to find the answer to my question.

Does the Twin frozr II Golden edition cool better than the "normal" Twin frozr II cooler?

My first thought was, yes it cools better because copper takes up more heat. but it also has a harder time getting rid of that heat.

So far i have only found one article that answers my question and it says the full copper edition runs 3° hotter. But the article doesn't provide any data about the testing


The Msi site says nothing about the full copper edition cooling better (strange) and I can't find any reviews of the twin frozr II Golden Edition.

It's weird that I can't find any comparison between the coolers. It's like people only care about the OC potential and that you can unlock it. I want to know about the Temp/Noise of this full copper cooler compared to the "normal" edition.
I asked one of the MSI hardware reps and he said that there was no temperature difference between the two. So the GE is basically for looks and perhaps unlocking.
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...You may want to at least test the card to make sure it works though if you can.

Good luck and let us know how it works out!
Ughh I decided not to take the risk to see if it unlocks or not.

I also found this on the Korean version of Newegg which also tipped me not to buy the GE from the dealer.



Which would lead me to guess all GTX465s and GEs imported here are un-unlockable.

I guess I'm SOL... I really wanted to get a GE GTX465 and join this club

Really would have just gone for a 465 SLI with at least one GE but I want to play Metro 2033 with 40+FPS@1900 resolution... T_T

Thanks a lot anyways for all the advices you've given 2010rig!
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I have been reading a lot of posts but can't seem to find the answer to my question.

Does the Twin frozr II Golden edition cool better than the "normal" Twin frozr II cooler?

My first thought was, yes it cools better because copper takes up more heat. but it also has a harder time getting rid of that heat.

So far i have only found one article that answers my question and it says the full copper edition runs 3° hotter. But the article doesn't provide any data about the testing


The Msi site says nothing about the full copper edition cooling better (strange) and I can't find any reviews of the twin frozr II Golden Edition.

It's weird that I can't find any comparison between the coolers. It's like people only care about the OC potential and that you can unlock it. I want to know about the Temp/Noise of this full copper cooler compared to the "normal" edition.
It's just about perfectly identical. Except that the Golden Edition Twin Frozr II is all about the bling. Seriously: that's the main reason why I bought it. But the secondary reason was, of course, that I might be able to turn it into a GTX 470 (which ended up being true for me).

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Ughh I decided not to take the risk to see if it unlocks or not.

I also found this on the Korean version of Newegg which also tipped me not to buy the GE from the dealer.



Which would lead me to guess all GTX465s and GEs imported here are un-unlockable.

I guess I'm SOL... I really wanted to get a GE GTX465 and join this club

Really would have just gone for a 465 SLI with at least one GE but I want to play Metro 2033 with 40+FPS@1900 resolution... T_T

Thanks a lot anyways for all the advices you've given 2010rig!
I feel the need to point something out: even if this card in the picture had 10 memory chips, it still wouldn't be "unlockable" because the GPU chip itself is just a plain GTX 465 chip. I mean, it has "GF100-030-A3" printed on it while the GTX 470 GPU has "GF100-275-A3" printed on it.

But of course, it also works the other way around: if the GPU is the GF100-275-A3 (the GTX 470) and if the card only has 8 memory chips, then it still wouldn't be "unlockable".
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@TwoCables Point taken! Yeah I was aware of that but I missed that factor out o_O

You people who have MSI GTX465 GEs or even a normal one unlocked are so lucky >_<
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@TwoCables Point taken! Yeah I was aware of that but I missed that factor out o_O

You people who have MSI GTX465 GEs or even a normal one unlocked are so lucky >_<
Yeah, I do feel incredibly blessed beyond reason. But I think I paid my dues because up until the day my sig rig was born (3/12/08), I still had a pre-built system that had a 500 MHz Pentium III, 384 MB of memory, a Voodoo3 3000 AGP, and Windows XP. My drives consisted of two 40 GB 5400 RPM PATA Barracudas, one PATA CD-RW drive, and one PATA CD-ROM drive. Oh, and a floppy drive.

I had that same system since maybe 2002, or 2003. Right before that, I had a prebuilt with a 450 MHz Pentium II, a Voodoo3 3000 PCI, and about the same memory and the same drives. I had an even worse system right before that, almost right up until XP was released.
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Yeah, I do feel incredibly blessed beyond reason. But I think I paid my dues because up until the day my sig rig was born (3/12/08), I still had a pre-built system that had a 500 MHz Pentium III, 384 MB of memory, a Voodoo3 3000 AGP, and Windows XP. My drives consisted of two 40 GB 5400 RPM PATA Barracudas, one PATA CD-RW drive, and one PATA CD-ROM drive. Oh, and a floppy drive.

I had that same system since maybe 2002, or 2003. Right before that, I had a prebuilt with a 450 MHz Pentium II, a Voodoo3 3000 PCI, and about the same memory and the same drives. I had an even worse system right before that, almost right up until XP was released.
Damn that's one hell of an upgrade Cables. Voodoo's are extinct now a days. Bling bling'in
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