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It is! Good to hear.



OCCT is good, and BF:BC2 is a great test.
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MSI's AfterBurner will let you change the volts and clocks then use kombustor or furmark as well as vantage or any other benchmarking tool.

OCCT is like the final answer in stability tests, as it checks the chip for errors by continuously refreshing one very complex image on screen. it's on a 1's and 0's level not just rendering graphics.

Thank you both.

What do you think about the stock voltage tho? at load being 1.037 ?
is that alot for stock? and is it only that high because of the 470 bios that was flashed on this card?
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Thank you both.

What do you think about the stock voltage tho? at load being 1.037 ?
is that alot for stock? and is it only that high because of the 470 bios that was flashed on this card?
these cards seem to need more volts than usual to run effectively. you can do a bit of experimentation to find your cards sweet spot using AfterBurner, but might wanna ask Frosty, he probably already set it up for you. some people go way higher with their volts on these cards, they all run a bit differently. your card might just need that amount of volts.
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these cards seem to need more volts than usual to run effectively. you can do a bit of experimentation to find your cards sweet spot using AfterBurner, but might wanna ask Frosty, he probably already set it up for you. some people go way higher with their volts on these cards, they all run a bit differently. your card might just need that amount of volts.
Yeah I'll be sure to ask him.

And I'll use OCCT to check for stability.

I ran crysis at max settings, excpet for AA and got 40fps and stable with;

750mhz core
1500mhz shader
1750 memory
1.025 VID

and stayed below 70C

My old gtx 285 would always crash Crysis even with a slight overclock.
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Yeah I'll be sure to ask him.

And I'll use OCCT to check for stability.

I ran crysis at max settings, excpet for AA and got 40fps and stable with;

750mhz core
1500mhz shader
1750 memory
1.025 VID

and stayed below 70C

My old gtx 285 would always crash Crysis even with a slight overclock.
Nice, I have to go up to 1.05V to get those speeds, and even then it's not the most stable, when you use OCCT, do the "error-check" option. I usually like to do it for 20 min or so.

That VID, could be a result of the BIOS Frosty flashed. I sold a GE to a buddy, and made him a custom bios with the VID increased to the point where I found it stable. That way he wouldn't have to mess with Afterburner, or other software (he's not too pc savvy, it is pretty difficult to adjust a slider).

Easy way to check, ask Frosty, or flash it back to the default 465 bios, and see what you get.

[edit]
I just ran Crysis at those same speeds, and that same voltage for 30 min, no problems. My VID for this card is 1.025, so it's a little on the high side too, but I don't view it as the end of the world. I wouldn't worry about it being higher than somebody else's, you probably won't be able to get crazy OC's out of it, but if you wanted to OC like crazy, an MSI 465 unlocked to a 470, proabably wasn't a great place to start. I think of any OC I can get out of this 465 as a 470, as an added bonus.
Edited by anubis1127 - 2/12/11 at 6:02pm
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Nice, I have to go up to 1.05V to get those speeds, and even then it's not the most stable, when you use OCCT, do the "error-check" option. I usually like to do it for 20 min or so.

That VID, could be a result of the BIOS Frosty flashed. I sold a GE to a buddy, and made him a custom bios with the VID increased to the point where I found it stable. That way he wouldn't have to mess with Afterburner, or other software (he's not too pc savvy, it is pretty difficult to adjust a slider).

Easy way to check, ask Frosty, or flash it back to the default 465 bios, and see what you get.

[edit]
I just ran Crysis at those same speeds, and that same voltage for 30 min, no problems. My VID for this card is 1.025, so it's a little on the high side too, but I don't view it as the end of the world. I wouldn't worry about it being higher than somebody else's, you probably won't be able to get crazy OC's out of it, but if you wanted to OC like crazy, an MSI 465 unlocked to a 470, proabably wasn't a great place to start. I think of any OC I can get out of this 465 as a 470, as an added bonus.
Yeah a 465 unlocked with a great quiet cooler, and I got it for 200$ local pick up.
Can't complain.
Can't complain with a core overclock of nearly 150mhz either.

I don't want to crazy overclock this thing. just a medium overclock.
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I got the GE I ordered off e-bay today! Looks like it belonged a fellow OCN member, EILERMAN. It was one he had RMA'd back in January, and he put a modified EVGA bios on it. He had it running at 700/1400/1848Mhz. My other card can't go over 1750 on the memory, so I guess that better, although it's running rather hot. I'm going to do some experimenting.

[edit]

I cranked the voltage up to 1.0875V just to see how this could OC at a voltage I'd be comfortable with, and so far it's passed OCCT for 20 min at 800/1600/1800Mhz. It's getting up to 82C though (ouch) My other GE doesn't get over 74C while doing same stress test. I was able to lower it back down to 1.05V at 800/1600/1800Mhz, and still pass OCCT. Now to try some games.

So, the VID of the EVGA bios was 1.05V, but I lowered the speeds down to "stock" gtx470 speeds, and am still able to pass 20 min of OCCT at .963V.

I am going to try to flash a backup of my other 465GE bios, and see what VID the card has. Should that work? Or would I need the original backup of this card's 465 bios?
Edited by anubis1127 - 2/15/11 at 6:26am
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I just saw these in a youtube video. Wow i missed this. I want one bad!!! Scower the internet for one right now.!
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I just saw these in a youtube video. Wow i missed this. I want one bad!!! Scower the internet for one right now.!
check the for sale section here.
There is normally a couple there.
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I got the GE I ordered off e-bay today! Looks like it belonged a fellow OCN member, EILERMAN. It was one he had RMA'd back in January, and he put a modified EVGA bios on it. He had it running at 700/1400/1848Mhz. My other card can't go over 1750 on the memory, so I guess that better, although it's running rather hot. I'm going to do some experimenting.

[edit]

I cranked the voltage up to 1.0875V just to see how this could OC at a voltage I'd be comfortable with, and so far it's passed OCCT for 20 min at 800/1600/1800Mhz. It's getting up to 82C though (ouch) My other GE doesn't get over 74C while doing same stress test. I was able to lower it back down to 1.05V at 800/1600/1800Mhz, and still pass OCCT. Now to try some games.

So, the VID of the EVGA bios was 1.05V, but I lowered the speeds down to "stock" gtx470 speeds, and am still able to pass 20 min of OCCT at .963V.

I am going to try to flash a backup of my other 465GE bios, and see what VID the card has. Should that work? Or would I need the original backup of this card's 465 bios?
Actually, it wasn't Eilerman who had it running at 700/1400/1848; that's just the stock clocks of that BIOS.

Anyway, if it's getting up to 82°C at 1.0875V, then I recommend manually increasing the fan speed to at least 60-70%.

Regarding trying to discover the card's original VID: unfortunately, that would require the original BIOS. :/
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