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How does shader complexity mess with it in a bad way?

And you might want to tell this guy that also
It's not that it messes with it in a bad way or anything like that, but it's just that higher is not always better. I mean, there seems to be a common misconception around here that using a Shader Complexity in OCCT of "8" is the best way to go because it's the "ultimate" test or something. But it's not. I mean, just because it's the highest Shader Complexity possible, there's only one thing being proven when using "8": your graphics card's overclock is stable when using a Shader Complexity of 8. But is it stable when using the other options? If you don't know, then why not try the other options? They're not inferior; they're different!

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Been using Furmark and MSI's version for awhile.


I'm not trying to be a butt, but OCCT hasn't been around since overclocking has existed. How would people test their overclock before OCCT was made? They would use some other program or just see if their PC kept crashing and would keep tinkering until it wouldn't crash. You can test all you want, doesn't guarantee you're good to go.
But Rangerscott, all aspects of overclocking are different (and much better) today - especially stability testing. Today's stability-testing options are far superior to what we had back in the day because now we have programs that have been carefully designed for it. Back then, our stability-testing methods were very crude at best and there was WAY too much guesswork. On top of that, our cards (and CPUs) were nowhere near as powerful as they are today. Additionally, our systems were less complex back then too.

So, instead of using the past as a way to convince everyone that it's a waste of time to use something like OCCT, I would be using the evolution of technology to support the use of OCCT and other related stability-testing programs.
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I didn't say it was a waste. I just said that there is no guarantee to anything. I've never been against OC programs.
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It's not that it messes with it in a bad way or anything like that, but it's just that higher is not always better. I mean, there seems to be a common misconception around here that using a Shader Complexity in OCCT of "8" is the best way to go because it's the "ultimate" test or something. But it's not. I mean, just because it's the highest Shader Complexity possible, there's only one thing being proven when using "8": your graphics card's overclock is stable when using a Shader Complexity of 8. But is it stable when using the other options? If you don't know, then why not try the other options? They're not inferior; they're different!

I agree. I don't have much experience with OCCT as you all know, but I've farted around with furmark and Komberbuster. I noticed that different AA mode settings give me different gpu usage %. Sometimes I can leave it on 4x msaa and it'll be 99% usage, then another time it might only be 60%. I have to change between them to get my gpu's pumping.
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I agree. I don't have much experience with OCCT as you all know, but I've farted around with furmark and Komberbuster. I noticed that different AA mode settings give me different gpu usage %. Sometimes I can leave it on 4x msaa and it'll be 99% usage, then another time it might only be 60%. I have to change between them to get my gpu's pumping.
So I was right. your oc is not stable one bit.

5 errors is unstable let alone 25,000 lol
You should take the voltage out of your signature. You showing off a "golden" overclocking card when it is not anywhere near that.
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So I was right. your oc is not stable one bit.

5 errors is unstable let alone 25,000 lol
You should take the voltage out of your signature. You showing off a "golden" overclocking card when it is not anywhere near that.
I never said furmark or kumbuster would crash my system. I was just stating different settings have different reactions with a gpu like twocables was stating.


I knew you were going to tell ME to change my sig rig. You dont worry about MY property. You worry about your hardware and I' ll worry about mine.

Also, no I am not "showing" off since my rig doesnt crash with what I do with it. Another thing there are people with a higher OC than me. Go bug them and tell them that they're showing off.
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Long time since i posted on this thread and woooow , there are now a golden GTX 560s man i have been out.

Some guys love OCCT some guys hate it , just remember that when you overclock its like pick your poison, no one will agree with another.Everyone has their opinion.

So i decided that i am going to try gaming on my OSX side of my PC but i have failed since the voltage isn't turned up.

Does anybody know how to modify only the twinfrzr bios with everything in stock but with the voltage up to 1.025 MV ???

Thanks Guys

Cheers

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I never said furmark or kumbuster would crash my system. I was just stating different settings have different reactions with a gpu like twocables was stating.


I knew you were going to tell ME to change my sig rig. You dont worry about MY property. You worry about your hardware and I' ll worry about mine.

Also, no I am not "showing" off since my rig doesnt crash with what I do with it. Another thing there are people with a higher OC than me. Go bug them and tell them that they're showing off.
Your not stable at ALL.

You should take the voltage out of your signature.

Otherwise why have it there false advertising it like it is stable.
Sure you can play games stable but your card is getting errors you can't see and harming it in the processes.
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Rangerscott: I've been told time and time again that if either my CPU or GPU is unstable but not unstable enough to crash for everything I do (but unstable enough to get errors in stress tests), then I still need to increase the stability. The reason is because that instability is making the CPU or GPU work harder which means it's under more stress than it otherwise could be which means it's more harmful than it otherwise could be (especially over the course of time).

In other words, the more stable it is, the longer it will last.
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Rangerscott: I've been told time and time again that if either my CPU or GPU is unstable but not unstable enough to crash for everything I do (but unstable enough to get errors in stress tests), then I still need to increase the stability. The reason is because that instability is making the CPU or GPU work harder which means it's under more stress than it otherwise could be which means it's more harmful than it otherwise could be (especially over the course of time).

In other words, the more stable it is, the longer it will last.
I hardly ever run at those speeds. As in maybe once every 3 months. Doing just fine in games at stock speeds.
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I hardly ever run at those speeds. As in maybe once every 3 months. Doing just fine in games at stock speeds.
But your signature gives me the impression that it's always overclocked like that. After all, that's one of the purposes that the "sig rig" serves.
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