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I don't understand...So is the cooler not as great as it's supposed to be?
Yeah, 30C isn't good
    
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That's not what I meant.

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Just thought I would like to mention one thing before you guys complain that your cards overclock like balls and so forth. The stock TIM is very thick and I'm starting to think they are compensating for something here. See pic below.

This is the second fermi card I've experienced that has done this with the HSF. An easy fix with some light lapping on it and you'll need to file down the mounting studs a hair as well.

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I'm not sure where you're getting this nonsense from but there is no need to replace the TIM or lap it. Mine is completely stock and I ran a very heavy overclock for testing purposes on this thread without ever going over 81C (they are rated to 105c). If you want to replace the TIM you can, lapping is overkill, but they are just fine stock.
He's referring to NCspecV81's post:

http://www.overclock.net/10279756-post952.html

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I don't understand...So is the cooler not as great as it's supposed to be?
If what NCspecV81 said is correct, then it's not the cooler; it's the thermal paste application. It also may need a light lapping.
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He's referring to NCspecV81's post:

http://www.overclock.net/10279756-post952.html


If what NCspecV81 said is correct, then it's not the cooler; it's the thermal paste application. It also may need a light lapping.
The HSF on mine is uneven, and at its worst possible spot.
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The HSF on mine is uneven, and at its worst possible spot.
I would've thought that the worst possible case would be the opposite of that picture. Isn't the middle the hottest part? And wouldn't the TIM tend to gather where there IS a gap between cooler and sink? It's potentially a crap application of crappy TIM, but I'd think the lack of TIM in the center would indicate that there's just no room for it there because there's absolutely no clearance for it to seep into. Which could be good as opposed to bad at least afa the quality of the contact being made at the hottest part of the chip.

Or am I missing something altogether here?
    
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I would've thought that the worst possible case would be the opposite of that picture. Isn't the middle the hottest part? And wouldn't the TIM tend to gather where there IS a gap between cooler and sink? It's potentially a crap application of crappy TIM, but I'd think the lack of TIM in the center would indicate that there's just no room for it there because there's absolutely no clearance for it to seep into. Which could be good as opposed to bad at least afa the quality of the contact being made at the hottest part of the chip.

Or am I missing something altogether here?
Here's how I applied this TIM: Glob in the middle; Spread even with straight edge across the entire IHS. I'll let the picture tell the story.

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Sorry >__< but what is TIM? and about that.. is there something additional I should do with the card to make it better in that aspect? I got kinda lost in the discussion of TIM when I don't know what that is.
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Sorry >__< but what is TIM? and about that.. is there something additional I should do with the card to make it better in that aspect? I got kinda lost in the discussion of TIM when I don't know what that is.
Thermal Interface Compound Material, you put it in between chips and their heat sinks to better transfer heat away from the computer chip to the metal of the heatsink. TIM makes up for imperfections in metal, ideally both surfaces would be completely flat and have alot of pressure joining them but these two required components are often lacking. To make up for the lack of an ideal metal to metal heat transfer, this gooey stuff that is made of mostly metal yet still toothpaste like is applied between the heatsink and chip to remove gaps of metal to metal touching. If there is a part of the chip not being touched by the heatsink (or TIM there bridging the connection), then there will be air there and air heats up faster than metal and will overheat the computer chip.

edit: Sorry for the mess up, posted it at 4am with no sleep.
Edited by Markisa - 8/9/10 at 3:55pm
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Hey guys I found a video from the same person who did the unboxing video that TwoCables posted, he also opened the card so you all can view the TIM application and so on.

He also shows how to unlock it as well.

YouTube- &#x202a;MSI NVIDIA GeForceGTX 465 Twin Frozr II Golden Edition GTX 470 Flash Unlock Guide Linus Tech Tips&#x202c;&lrm;
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