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post #101 of 10602
8/19/10 at 4:32am
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We won't be talking about sockets on the 24th. We will be talking about some of the sub architecture components. I don't want people getting their hopes up thinking this is some kind of "mass unveiling" of data. We are talking about how some of the pieces are built and what they do.

Pretty sure the heavens won't open up during hot chips - they never have in the past, it's just not that kind of show.
post #102 of 10602
8/19/10 at 4:39am
You do realize that the question: "will the first generation of Bulldozer CPU's for desktops be supported by any current board?" is very important for a lot of people.
People wanna know if AM3 is an upgrade path.
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post #103 of 10602
8/19/10 at 5:25am
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You do realize that the question: "will the first generation of Bulldozer CPU's for desktops be supported by any current board?" is very important for a lot of people.
People wanna know if AM3 is an upgrade path.
No matter how important this question is, he's still a server guy and this is a client question.

Also, it's already been hinted at that Bulldozer will work on AM3 platforms. The server Bulldozer CPU's drop into existing sockets, so take that for what it's worth.
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8/19/10 at 10:09pm
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I hope it drops into AM3 Boards. But if it doesnt its not that big of a deal a great AMD mobo is like $150. We still dont know how expensive its going to be either.
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8/21/10 at 2:14pm
Tommie : AM3r2 = AM3+=AM3 revision number 2, so...? ,-) Here is your answer
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So no dice on a current AM3 board.
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post #107 of 10602
8/22/10 at 10:14am
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So no dice on a current AM3 board.
No it's just a BIOS update away.
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post #108 of 10602
8/23/10 at 4:53am
I have a question:

In your personal opinion, do you think that x86 architecture will ever become obsolete? Any estimates?

If so, will we eventually see 128 bit architecture, lets say within 5 years? Will it depend on x86 (x86-128, meaning cross-license agreement with Intel) or you can actually develop something that replaces x86 and does not require license at all?

Or it is possible with quantum computing only.
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8/23/10 at 7:05am
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Obviously, over time, everything becomes obsolete. I have a stack of QIC-80 backup tapes to prove it.

The real question is how does technology morph. Tapes are tough because it is a physical medium. Software, on the other hand, can have emulation layers to keep it alive. There are tons of NT 4.0 servers running in VMware virtual machines today. Not emulation like you would normally think of it, but emulation nonetheless.

The drive to 64-bit was driven not by 64-bit instructions, but by the need for accessing more than the 4GB that 32-bit memory addressing could handle (without tricks).

When things go to 128-bit is off in the future, way out there. But it will probably happen. Saying 64-bit is enough is like saying nobody will ever want more than 640K.

The challenge with replacing x86 is that there is so much legacy code out there. It is like trying to change the engine on an airplane. In flight.
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8/23/10 at 7:11am
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You do realize that the question: "will the first generation of Bulldozer CPU's for desktops be supported by any current board?" is very important for a lot of people.
People wanna know if AM3 is an upgrade path.
It's not up to AMD. As always there will be some manufacturers that will choose not to provide a bios update. It's the same with every chip release.
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