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post #1041 of 10602
5/14/11 at 1:46pm
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This is going to be my birthday present. Can't wait. Hopefully ASUS does support bulldozer in AM3.
Yeah... I only bought an ASUS AM3 motherboard because of the Bulldozer claim.
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post #1042 of 10602
5/14/11 at 1:47pm
is it true that launch chips are usually golden?
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post #1043 of 10602
5/14/11 at 7:55pm
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is it true that launch chips are usually golden?
Later revisions are usually better,but you never know.
For instance Phenom II revision C3 is better than revision C2.
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post #1044 of 10602
5/14/11 at 8:51pm
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Later revisions are usually better,but you never know.
For instance Phenom II revision C3 is better than revision C2.
well yea. different revisions/steppings are usually better. But im talking about, the same revision. launch chip vs months in.
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post #1045 of 10602
5/15/11 at 6:49am
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I don't know what you mean by "golden" but steppings are extremely expensive so don't expect that you would launch with one stepping and add another one quickly after.
post #1046 of 10602
5/15/11 at 8:59am
JF. From what I know "Golden Chips" are basically chips that are great overclockers. It's all really subjective but generally it means they're able to overclock slightly more and run slightly cooler or will less voltage needed to get it stable.

Take 2 PII 955BE's on C3 stepping. You use the exact same testbed only swapping out the CPU's in between. Chip #1 can only get to 3.6 Ghz on stock voltages and you need to push more volts (say 1.45V) in order to get it to 4.0Ghz. Chip #2 on the other hand can get 4.2Ghz easily and only needs 1.35V, fun times, it would therefore constitute as a "golden chip". Note these aren't realistic examples I've purposely taken it to extremes to demonstrate what is and isn't a golden chip.

Also JF, this might be outside of your knowledge but do you have any details about the Hudson D_ chipsets and when announcements/release are? Will they be annouced/released at Computex or will it be at the Fusion Developers summit?
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post #1047 of 10602
5/16/11 at 9:32am
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Every processor is like a snowflake, no 2 are alike. I would not categorize some as better than other. For instance a pair of 2.4GHz processors could be very different. One could be a 2.4GHz max and one could have been a 3GHz downclocked to a 2.4GHz. You should be careful on assumptions because your results will always vary.
post #1048 of 10602
5/16/11 at 10:25am
Generally, in the Enthusiast community, we have found certain stepping's to be better than another on every chip tested.

While it's not the most scientific method; it's been working for us for years.

So you most likely will not hear the terms "Good batches" or "Golden Chips" end any time soon.
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post #1049 of 10602
5/16/11 at 3:05pm
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/05/16/stop-the-clocks/

An Oasis fan eh

Don't stop the clocks! Something like.. would be more appropriate

because and so bring on (near enough ) Grew up on nothing but Oasis
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5/16/11 at 4:09pm
oh dear, that explains a lot...
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