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post #1581 of 10602
7/8/11 at 3:36pm
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Dated Feb 20, 2010, claimed he had a BD in front of him. We had not taped out the processor on that date. What killed me was that because we had not made a public statement on tapeout, I was not able to tell everyone why he was wrong.

That is what makes this forum thing suck sometimes. Someone tells a lie and you know it is wrong, you have data to show that it is wrong, and you can't expose the lie.
Coming from you, it just has to be said for it to be believed -- no proof required. At least in my eyes.
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7/8/11 at 3:42pm
http://www.donanimhaber.com/islemci/...-sonuclari.htm










Edited by liberato87 - 7/8/11 at 3:45pm
post #1583 of 10602
7/8/11 at 3:52pm
As JF has said so many times, these ES benchmark leaks (if they're actually real... 99% of the time they're not) mean nothing because engineering samples do not represent the final chip's performance. Remember what happened with Sledgehammer?
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7/8/11 at 4:14pm
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7/8/11 at 7:16pm
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Rumor was that BD would run in AM3 boards with a BIOS update. Now JF never stated that this was false so I'm not busting chops here. In fact I rather respect JF and his novel approach of listening and divulging what he can without making others feel inferior.

But point is that would be two rumors that were true. Granted the bulk of the rumor mill is ground out by untrained chimps, but some rumors just hold up to careful scrutiny.

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7/8/11 at 9:09pm
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Rumor was that BD would run in AM3 boards with a BIOS update. Now JF never stated that this was false so I'm not busting chops here. In fact I rather respect JF and his novel approach of listening and divulging what he can without making others feel inferior.

But point is that would be two rumors that were true. Granted the bulk of the rumor mill is ground out by untrained chimps, but some rumors just hold up to careful scrutiny.

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The official ASUS website, and the I think MSI's official website say the BD will work in some of their AM3 MBs after a BIOS update.

That is NOT a rumour
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post #1587 of 10602
7/9/11 at 1:01am
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You forgot the benchmarks AMDs ES Bulldozer got good scores







that 2MBx4 L2 comes in handy over Intels measly 256KBx4 L2

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Bulldozer has been supported since 1.56.4 Beta which became 1.57(Feb 2011)

Since you can't download 1.57.1 on the official page 1.57.1 added the names while 1.56.4/1.57 only had "AMD Processor"

1.58 Beta adds the retail versions and 1.58 official support
Edited by Seronx - 7/9/11 at 1:06am
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post #1588 of 10602
7/9/11 at 5:04am
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I sure hope the the superPi 1M times are much better on retail BD

with my system OC I get 17.129s

I don't have an opinion on the other benches because I have no experience with them
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7/9/11 at 5:16am
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Rumor was that BD would run in AM3 boards with a BIOS update. Now JF never stated that this was false so I'm not busting chops here. In fact I rather respect JF and his novel approach of listening and divulging what he can without making others feel inferior.

But point is that would be two rumors that were true. Granted the bulk of the rumor mill is ground out by untrained chimps, but some rumors just hold up to careful scrutiny.

~Ceadder
If you look back you will see that I said "not supported."

I run an Opteron 1389 in a Gigabyte AM2 board. It is not supported. It works. Do I get the best performance? I don't know. Do I get all the features? I don't know. If it stops working, who can I call? Nobody.

Not making any claims about any manufacturer regarding BD in AM3, just that some may find that while something works, that does not mean it is optimal.

My biggest concern is someone who puts a BD in an AM3, doesn't get exactly what they hoped for and then starts badmouthing AMD.

And you KNOW it will happen. It always does.
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7/9/11 at 5:42am
do you have any information regarding am3+ infrastructure being swapped out in 2012 tho? like if its just another backwards compatible socket/chipset or something completely new?

some of us like to hold on to our enthusiast expensive boards for a while.. not swap them out every time a new cpu comes along. i miss the times when cpu's were developed for sockets not the other way around.
Edited by hazarada - 7/9/11 at 5:48am
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