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I don't believe he comments on the client side of stuff.
Anyway, I doubt FM1 will replace AM3+ on the enthusiast side.
Perhaps a variation of it will.
post #1592 of 10602
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My biggest concern is someone who puts a BD in an AM3, doesn't get exactly what they hoped for and then starts badmouthing AMD.

And you KNOW it will happen. It always does.
Yes, it will. However, no worries here... I'll form my own opinion based on my own experience vs. reading someone else's. Now, if you could just hurry the release along a little

J/k JF, I know you have nothing to do with that. However, I am a little impatient sitting on all this new hardware w/o the proper means to run it.
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If you look back you will see that I said "not supported."

I run an Opteron 1389 in a Gigabyte AM2 board. It is not supported. It works. Do I get the best performance? I don't know. Do I get all the features? I don't know. If it stops working, who can I call? Nobody.

Not making any claims about any manufacturer regarding BD in AM3, just that some may find that while something works, that does not mean it is optimal.

My biggest concern is someone who puts a BD in an AM3, doesn't get exactly what they hoped for and then starts badmouthing AMD.

And you KNOW it will happen. It always does.
Yup, agreed. Unfortunately people were already doing that with the tardiness of the CPU.

Me? I'ma laugh my butt off when BD turns out to be better than that Sandy they went after cause they were too impatient to wait it out. An I'll be upgrading using my Board.

Can't be mad at the Proc manufacturer when I already know what the limitations will be. Hopefully ASUS works hard to get the rest working smoothly. If not... "Oops, my bad color me embarrassed"...

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Yup, agreed. Unfortunately people were already doing that with the tardiness of the CPU.

Me? I'ma laugh my butt off when BD turns out to be better than that Sandy they went after cause they were too impatient to wait it out. An I'll be upgrading using my Board.

Can't be mad at the Proc manufacturer when I already know what the limitations will be. Hopefully ASUS works hard to get the rest working smoothly. If not... "Oops, my bad color me embarrassed"...

But I just want you to know that you're appreciated round here.

~Ceadder
You got that right man! It's nice to have someone on the "inside" that can help out on these forums, and I'm sorry JF that some here have not been adults when it comes to posts.
OT: Just out of curiosity, since yer a server guy, what are/will be the differences between Socket C32 and G34 for BD? Just packaging?
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You got that right man! It's nice to have someone on the "inside" that can help out on these forums, and I'm sorry JF that some here have not been adults when it comes to posts.
OT: Just out of curiosity, since yer a server guy, what are/will be the differences between Socket C32 and G34 for BD? Just packaging?
Pinless as far as I am aware but JF would know better than I would.

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Pinless as far as I am aware but JF would know better than I would.

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Yeah that's what I thought that G34 was LGA and C32 was PGA. I need to look up the performance differences between the two with normal Opterons.
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Both are LGA. The C32 package has 1207 connections and is square. The G34 package is larger to accommodate 2 dies amd has 1944 connections.

C32 is very similar to the old 1207 socket, it is the same physical dimensions but we swapped some pin assignments to make the products work better, so they are not compatible at all. As well, the old 1207 was DDR2 so we could not make that work with DDR3. Technically we probably could have but would have had OEMs screaming if someone could put a DDR2 product in a DDR3 because that massively increases the test matrix.
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Both are LGA. The C32 package has 1207 connections and is square. The G34 package is larger to accommodate 2 dies amd has 1944 connections.

C32 is very similar to the old 1207 socket, it is the same physical dimensions but we swapped some pin assignments to make the products work better, so they are not compatible at all. As well, the old 1207 was DDR2 so we could not make that work with DDR3. Technically we probably could have but would have had OEMs screaming if someone could put a DDR2 product in a DDR3 because that massively increases the test matrix.
Thanks JF. I was thinking of C32 being PGA but I was wrong (I had socket 940 on the brain )
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JF can u tell us if zambezi IMC will have ECC functionality? It looks like the 8gb unbuffered sticks that are popping up are all ECC capable so would be nice to be able to utilize it.
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JF can u tell us if zambezi IMC will have ECC functionality? It looks like the 8gb unbuffered sticks that are popping up are all ECC capable so would be nice to be able to utilize it.
Ooooooooooo, 2ea 8-core BD's on a socket C32 system with 64gb of ram!! OHHHHHH YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!



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