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so.. anything new released?
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Well, that depends on the last time you checked, right?
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in the last week?
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Nothing new in the past week. There is a new blog on whether bobcat would be a server CPU (spoiler alert: not any time soon.)
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I'm still wondering how this will perform versus Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. They're pretty behind but offer a nice low price for their processors. I feel like the only thing that's keeping AMD alive is their low processor costs (low budget builds) and graphics cards.
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Well, when you consider that probably 99% of the people in the market are NOT buying that highest clock speed processor, having a part that delivers value can be a really good thing.
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So then the strategy is to sell in quantity instead of selling "luxury". ie. Seat or Skoda selling low cost cars vs something more high end like Audi selling fewer units to the luxury market (NB: They're both owned by the same parent company (VW Group)) (I was discussing this as part of an Economics seminar course).

Anyways..... is there any word about which OEM's will release Bobcat laptops after the New Year? I need to source a notebook for one of my friends and I convinced them to wait until Q1/2011 for the OEM's to start releasing Bobcat based notebooks so I hope they actually do come out during that time or I'll be in hot water.
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I'm still wondering how this will perform versus Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. They're pretty behind but offer a nice low price for their processors. I feel like the only thing that's keeping AMD alive is their low processor costs (low budget builds) and graphics cards.
To be 100% honest, when it comes to real world usage, most people can't tell the difference between the two in terms of normal computing. It's only when you get into the benchmarks that there's a difference and even then...who the hell runs benchmarks 24/7 on their desktop.

It all comes back to how much someone is willing to pay. AMD has a good lead in the price/performance segment but then you have Intel with their shady ways to ensure that it only goes so far.

I think these will compete quite well against the newer Intel CPU's just based value alone. To be honest, I haven't see anything about Sandy Bridge that would even make me want to convert to Intel but to each his own. I'll be happy with my AMD Bulldozer build and will be waiting for the new laptop and netbook parts to complete my purchases next year.

Although, I do still get a free laptop on December 20th...I hope it's at least a decent one...
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So then the strategy is to sell in quantity instead of selling "luxury". ie. Seat or Skoda selling low cost cars vs something more high end like Audi selling fewer units to the luxury market (NB: They're both owned by the same parent company (VW Group)) (I was discussing this as part of an Economics seminar course).

Anyways..... is there any word about which OEM's will release Bobcat laptops after the New Year? I need to source a notebook for one of my friends and I convinced them to wait until Q1/2011 for the OEM's to start releasing Bobcat based notebooks so I hope they actually do come out during that time or I'll be in hot water.
No, slightly different. The strategy is not to build a lamborghini that is 5% faster than a honda accord and 5X the price.

Can't speak to bobcat, I am a server guy.
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Nothing new in the past week. There is a new blog on whether bobcat would be a server CPU (spoiler alert: not any time soon.)
Wonder if that GPU inside of it does better paraellel processing then a bulldozer CPU? Probably not under that new arch you guys got cooking...well maybe in really tiny calculations?

Hey JF, just wondering, with all those AMD based cpus you have, would you ever open up your own internet cafe. The real question was, do you PC game at all?

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It all comes back to how much someone is willing to pay. AMD has a good lead in the price/performance segment but then you have Intel with their shady ways to ensure that it only goes so far.
Well isn't AMD ahead in their server market? I thought AMD pretty much had the majority of the server market? Or is it the same like the client side?

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Although, I do still get a free laptop on December 20th...I hope it's at least a decent one...
I pulled the trigger and got myself a new laptop even though I'd rather wait for bobcat. But I kinda needed a tablet ASAP so grabbed one anyways. Although good enough for school work (has an i3), it can't play even minecraft which bobcat would probably walk over while maintaining that low power usage.

Btw, is intel stepping up in terms of a bobcat equavalent?
Edited by Domino - 12/1/10 at 3:13pm
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