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post #261 of 10602
12/1/10 at 4:21pm
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Hey JF, just wondering, with all those AMD based cpus you have, would you ever open up your own internet cafe. The real question was, do you PC game at all?
I am a hard core gamer, but not like you guys:

post #262 of 10602
12/1/10 at 8:31pm
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Well isn't AMD ahead in their server market? I thought AMD pretty much had the majority of the server market? Or is it the same like the client side?
Honestly, I don't know anymore. I knew for a time they were spanking Intel's ass and riding like them horse in the server market but I haven't so much as heard about any server market %'s in the longest time which is odd anyway.

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I pulled the trigger and got myself a new laptop even though I'd rather wait for bobcat. But I kinda needed a tablet ASAP so grabbed one anyways. Although good enough for school work (has an i3), it can't play even minecraft which bobcat would probably walk over while maintaining that low power usage.
I was thinking about getting that Viewsonic tablet with the Dual ARM Cortex (I think) processor in it but I've decided that I've gone this long without on so I can wait a little longer. Wow...sucks it can't play minecraft. Now I have an HP TX series tablet laptop which is great. The only bad side to it is the small battery in it. It really only lasts about 2-3 hours before I have to recharge but thankfully, majority of the classes I've been in all have power sockets near me so I can just plug it in anyway.

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Btw, is intel stepping up in terms of a bobcat equavalent?
Dunno. If i'm not mistaken though, they are still just progressing a long current roadmap with no changes. If they were to release a new Atom CPU, it definitely won't be anytime soon as AMD's isn't really on the market yet and thus isn't a competitor and so they really don't have a reason to do so. All we can do is hope the masses see that the next AMD netbook CPU spanks Intel and they can hold off on their purchases to get that AMD based netbook.

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I am a hard core gamer, but not like you guys:
lol that is hilarious and it does bear a resemblance I think we need to convert you into a PC Gamer
Edited by KamuiRSX - 12/1/10 at 8:41pm
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post #263 of 10602
12/2/10 at 6:47am
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If I had free time to game, I would be on my bike. With little free time I don't want to do things that take me away from the trails.
post #264 of 10602
12/2/10 at 5:55pm
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If I had free time to game, I would be on my bike. With little free time I don't want to do things that take me away from the trails.
Oooh mountain bike rider?

I love doing that but there's really only one good trail nearby and it's extremely fun to do in the rain...all that mud just goes everywhere. The only bad side is that it tends to leave me sore for awhile. You're invited if you ever swing through Knoxville .

There's a couple of others that I've heard are good around here but outside of the Smoky Mountain National Park, I have little to no experience with them.
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post #265 of 10602
12/2/10 at 6:49pm
JF-AMD I have a question about the Processing...

From what I understand, with Bulldozer Client/Desktop Versions of the CPUs, there are 2 modules in each core, each module will have the ability to handle 1 process by itself, is this correct?

Following along those premises, a quad core Bulldozer CPU will have 4 Cores & 8 Modules capable of 8 Processes, is this correct?

I just want clarity on the facts, I think I seen this answered on the blog, but wasn't 100% positive.
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12/2/10 at 11:39pm
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JF-AMD I have a question about the Processing...

From what I understand, with Bulldozer Client/Desktop Versions of the CPUs, there are 2 modules in each core, each module will have the ability to handle 1 process by itself, is this correct?

Following along those premises, a quad core Bulldozer CPU will have 4 Cores & 8 Modules capable of 8 Processes, is this correct?

I just want clarity on the facts, I think I seen this answered on the blog, but wasn't 100% positive.
A little backwards.

There's 2 Integer cores per Bulldozer Module. Each Integer core can handle 1 process by itself because they each have their own single dedicated thread.

The Quad core Bulldozer based CPU will have 4 Integer Cores or 2 Bulldozer Modules (whichever way you want to look at it but they are both the same). They are capable of handling 4 threads (1 thread per Integer Core).

The actual core count (in terms of dual, quad, hexa, octo) will be based on the number of Integer cores on the processor and not the number of Bulldozer modules.

Hope that helps.
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post #267 of 10602
12/3/10 at 8:27am
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Modules will never be marketed and you will never see them as a consumer. They are for designers and engineers to understand what is happening inside the chip.
post #268 of 10602
12/5/10 at 4:51am
OK so as a consumer we should think about it at the high level abstracted level (and just think that 1 Interger Core = 1 Core and don't worry about anything else) instead of the "low level nuts and bolts" that the engineers and designers have to incorporate into their designs and such (ie. 2 Interger cores = 1 Bulldozer module = 2 regular Cores)?

Another question.... What about "tri core" (or odd numbered core) implementations of these chips? Will they exist (ie. 1.5 Bullozer modules = 3 cores)? I could see engineers and such having a hard time if dealing with "tri core" or 1.5 Bulldozer module chips. What about "damaged cores" and binning them to a lower model?

PS: I also love mountain biking, but it's only Xcountry mountain biking right now, nothing crazy like those extreme downhill bikers, mainly because I don't have any safety gear (full helmet, armour, and all that).

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post #269 of 10602
12/5/10 at 5:13am
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I can't speak to how client will implement products. On the server side it will be 8, 12 and 16 core.

I am XC as well. I cannot afford to be out of work because I did something stupid on the bike. I can't powerpoint with a fracture.
post #270 of 10602
12/6/10 at 9:25am
what is this bulldozer? an new processor? interesting...... cant wait to read more about this
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