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Originally Posted by pcclock View Post
Wow +700 pages. I wonder if it will reach +1000 before release.
Easy target given the massive amounts of trolls that crash BD threads. Even when BD does release into the wild, we all know that people will find SOMETHING to argue and complain about BD. This I guaranty..


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Tankguys works for AMD ?
I work for AMD but i don't see much NDA stuff

i just do office work lol
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I work for AMD but i don't see much NDA stuff

i just do office work lol
So what's the latest rumor in the offices?
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I work for AMD but i don't see much NDA stuff

i just do office work lol
Is it common to hear the number twelve combined in some way with October over there?
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I work for AMD but i don't see much NDA stuff

i just do office work lol
Are you allowed to take a vacation anytime this month?
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So what's the latest rumor in the offices?
There is not that much rumors here due to the dept i work at.

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Is it common to hear the number twelve combined in some way with October over there?
If it is launching then i'll probably find out 2-3 days before if i'm lucky.

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Are you allowed to take a vacation anytime this month?
I did apply for some at the end of the month and i still haven't been giving confirmation
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I did apply for some at the end of the month and i still haven't been giving confirmation
If you get denied before Oct.12, try to ask to take that day off..
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As I understand things, the CPU does physically have 8 cores. It's just that they have eight CPU cores...but only four FPU cores. The eight cores share, in pairs within modules, the CPU's front-end (scheduler/prefetcher/etc), FPU core and L2 cache. All modules also have their own L3 cache, but it is outside the module for some reason. So the CPU does have eight physical, honest to god cores; but not in the sense that we're used to them (as in all cores have all that stuff to themselves) and they're shared in four modules. This is why it's such a departure from the norm and also why it's not HT per se'.
In 128-bit FP mode (like probably 99% of the desktop apps will use) there are 8 cores and 8 FP units.


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Has JF-AMD commented on Oct 12th as a release? Asking because there is another news post, stating that MicroCenter is confirming the 12th as release.
No, because he doesn't comment on dates.

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Anyway, didn't mean to get completely off topic, I was pointing out that I don't see 8 distinct cores in that BD die shot.
If you had x-ray eyes, you'd be able to see beyond the first layer. There are 10 more below that one. Just because you don't see what you want on the top layer doesn't mean it isn't there.

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Are you allowed to take a vacation anytime this month?
Half of my team is taking vacation right now. And if someone wanted vacation on launch day I would never deny it. That makes you a jerk of a boss. You have to do what is best for your people and they will give you their best back.


As for those that say that somehow core counts are just "marketing" and the processor is really only 4 cores. Please explain 2 things:

1. How do you explain the 8 discrete integer schedulers and 8 discrete integer pipelines. No thread can occupy both cores.
2. If you were a customer and you found out that the "quad core", when using only 4 threads, could only use half of the integer pipelines, you'd be pissed, right? If you are only running 4 threads, you only get use of 4 cores, not 8.
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Can you comment on what Chew* said?

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For whatever reason AMD chose to market it as cores.

In reality however BD is more akin to 4 cores / 8 threads as they share resources.

I have said this since the beginning.

There are however other reasons for calling them cores.

Example you can disable HT with intel.

AMD's design to my knowledge however does not allow for disabling a core in a module, I could be wrong however.

I see it as a 4 core part that can execute up to 8 threads, An engineer at AMD while I was there tended to agree with me
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If you had x-ray eyes, you'd be able to see beyond the first layer. There are 10 more below that one. Just because you don't see what you want on the top layer doesn't mean it isn't there.
I apologize for taking interest in your CPU that I've been waiting all year for, and wondering where the 8 cores were, as they weren't clearly noticeable like they are on other CPU die shots. If there were more die shots available that clearly showed the 8 cores, one wouldn't have to wonder where they were.

I also apologize for not having X-ray vision, I'll work on that.
Edited by 2010rig - 10/3/11 at 7:02pm
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