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post #961 of 10602
5/4/11 at 6:05pm
I agree, this last month is going to be a nightmare, especially after hearing the news about Intel's 3d transistor design. By the way(if you're allowed to talk about it)...Is AMD also working on 3d transistor tech?
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post #962 of 10602
5/4/11 at 7:47pm
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...hhmmm... Thats not the usual denial of their authenticity...
"we cannot comment on our denial at this time"

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5/4/11 at 11:22pm
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...hhmmm... Thats not the usual denial of their authenticity...
I have no idea what is real and what is not. When benchmarks appeared and silicon was only at the hands of a few partners, it was real easy to say that they are not real.

Now, it becomes far more likely that someone has silicon in their hands.

Knowing that there are multiple rounds of silicon and that the earliest stuff out there is always the slowest (early stuff focuses on low speed so that you get better yield and more parts to work with), it is always possible that someone has some old parts.

But my guess is, from seeing all the fake crap out there, that most, if not all, of it is not real, but as you get closer to launch, it is more likely that something real is going to show up.

But until you get to production level silicon with the right BIOS and the right software optimizations, you don't get an accurate understanding of the performance.

In addition, you need someone who knows what they are doing. If I ran benchmarks on a bulldozer I would get lower performance than the experts because I don't spend any time benchmarking so I would not know what I am doing.

This is why I always say wait for launch. Do you want results now or do you want the best performance? You can get either, you just can't get both.
post #964 of 10602
5/4/11 at 11:27pm
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I have no idea what is real and what is not. When benchmarks appeared and silicon was only at the hands of a few partners, it was real easy to say that they are not real.

Now, it becomes far more likely that someone has silicon in their hands.

Knowing that there are multiple rounds of silicon and that the earliest stuff out there is always the slowest (early stuff focuses on low speed so that you get better yield and more parts to work with), it is always possible that someone has some old parts.

But my guess is, from seeing all the fake crap out there, that most, if not all, of it is not real, but as you get closer to launch, it is more likely that something real is going to show up.

But until you get to production level silicon with the right BIOS and the right software optimizations, you don't get an accurate understanding of the performance.

In addition, you need someone who knows what they are doing. If I ran benchmarks on a bulldozer I would get lower performance than the experts because I don't spend any time benchmarking so I would not know what I am doing.

This is why I always say wait for launch. Do you want results now or do you want the best performance? You can get either, you just can't get both.
This is why I don't look at comparisons, at least not entirely and certainly not before launch. In the end, I just look at what works for me. My x6 as proven to be able to take anything I throw at it and more. I may grab BD later in the game but again, my x6 does it all.
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post #965 of 10602
5/5/11 at 12:16am
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If anyone knows a good place for a beer in edinbrough, let me know
Edinburgh not so much but if you make it to Canterbury in the South East I could hook you up (clubs, probably not your thing, but as far as real English pubs go I can get a map of all of them overlayed on top of the British Ordinance Survey map I am a Geographer after all and we actually mapped the locations of pubs in the city for a GIS project) . And it would be pretty cool to meet the AMD server marketing director too.

EDIT: A world without competition.... Well in that case Air Canada would have crappier service and still be able to keep afloat, I'd be paying significantly more for bike parts, cellphones would be cost prohibitive to 99% of the Canadian population, we'd still be using 1G or 2G GSM, and cartels and price fixing would generally run rampant.
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post #966 of 10602
5/5/11 at 12:17am
Don't worry JF, it was just my cynical mind clutching at straws for any titbits...

(and yes, that is is titbits)
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5/5/11 at 12:25am
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Edinburgh not so much but if you make it to Canterbury in the South East I could hook you up (clubs, probably not your thing, but as far as real English pubs go I can get a map of all of them overlayed on top of the British Ordinance Survey map I am a Geographer after all and we actually mapped the locations of pubs in the city for a GIS project) . And it would be pretty cool to meet the AMD server marketing director too.
Yeah i'm sure he'll pop down for a beer, it's only 471 miles and an 8hr drive! He could get a hire car...



You don't need a map to find pubs in Britain, they tend to be older buildings (400-600yrs old) with big signs out side.
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post #968 of 10602
5/5/11 at 12:32am
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Well I will be in london on sunday-tuesday, but I have plans for most of my time. Lots of friends in the city, but unfortunately too small of a bag to carry biking clothes with me. 2 weeks in Europe in a carry-on bag sucks, but it is possible.
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5/5/11 at 1:28am
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Yeah i'm sure he'll pop down for a beer, it's only 471 miles and an 8hr drive! He could get a hire car...
Considering that Canadians will drive 3 hours (6 hours round trip, it's *only* 400km round trip) to watch a 60 minute hockey game.... Also there's a pretty big car culture in America isn't there so I assumed that people wouldn't have a problem driving everywhere (ie. look at the drive in churches, drive through ATM's, trend of big box stores being located at the periphery of a city etc.).

I know 2 weeks in a carry-on is totally doable. I flew Ryanair to Germany for a ski trip during Christmas and that was for ~3 weeks (but that said I was wearing all 3 of my jackets, my snowtrousers and all that).
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5/5/11 at 4:58am
Yeah people here drive 300 miles to watch football, but the difference is that game will only be played there, in that city / town. Where as you'd have trouble driving 5 miles, even in the most rural location in Britain, without seeing a pub.

Anyway, I was only pulling your leg, relax.

Back in '98 I went on holiday for two weeks in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. All I took was one pair of shorts and a couple of t-shirts, I didn't own anything else that wasn't full of holes, I came back with a completely full suitcase! LOL

Oh yeah the other thing about driving from Edinburgh to Canterbury is the cost, you're looking at a £180 ($300) round trip, that's a very expensive beer!


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