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I have noticed a sort of stutturing in FarCry before it was patched, and a few other games with a dual core. Every time setting the affinity fixes the problem, and since a 3800+ is fine for most games, its really isn't a very big deal. here is a nice example of the stuttering. I believe this is a slightly more extreme version of what everyone else is experiancing. Its called fraps off because beforei realized that i could just set the affinity to fix the problem, using fraps to record would solve the problem. the game in the video is Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, because it was extremly noticeable in it.
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post #32 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
HardOCP just posted a new review testing top dual core processors in games (as opposed to benches).

Glad I stayed single core.

"Dual Core Gaming For The Win?


There just simply aren’t any major 3D game titles that utilize dual core processors in any way that is advantageous. Yes, NVIDIA drivers “support†dual core CPUs and are able to leverage the second core for some offloading of driver work but this did not result in any tangible real-world benefits at all. We are sorry to say if you are purchasing a dual core CPU in hopes of better gameplay you aren’t going to see any difference right now. The major discerning performance factors in games are going to be the frequency of your CPU and your level of GPU. Hopefully games in the future will properly support and benefit from dual core CPUs.


If you are building a system for 3D gaming, save your dual core budget and spend it on GHz.


Dual Core Problems


In our gameplay we did come across some problems that we believe are associated with dual core CPUs, games and possibly drivers. There were times in some games, such as F.E.A.R. that we would ‘feel’ a slowdown in the framerate. It was as if we were moving along smoothly and then out of no where, unexpectedly in situations not typical of bringing the framerate down we would feel a change in the framerate. Now, it wasn’t enough of a drop to bring us below 30 FPS or cause the game to not be playable. It was however a slight annoyance because when you are at a high framerate and the framerate drops, let’s say for example from 80 FPS to 50 or 40 FPS you feel that change in the framerate and it may bother you.


We feel this is a problem with dual core CPUs because we did not experience this problem with the single core 2.8 GHz Prescott or our regular single core FX-55 we test with on a regular basis. This was only felt on the dual core CPUs. We aren’t sure if this is a game problem with the way it interacts with the CPUs or if it is a driver problem as well, all we know is that it happened with the dual core CPUs and it didn’t happen with the single core CPUs.


Another issue which really isn’t a problem is some weird framerate capping in World of Warcraft with dual core CPUs. Head back to page 6 of this evaluation and look at the World of Warcraft graphs. Look at the Pentium 4 2.8 GHz Prescott single core CPU graphs. You can see that the framerate has a maximum that goes well up to 100 FPS. Now look at the dual core CPU graphs. It seems the framerate is being capped at around 65 FPS. This is extremely odd, we verified VSYNC was off, our monitor was at 75 Hz anyways at 1600x1200, yet the framerate seemed to be capped at 65 FPS. This only occurred with the dual core CPUs. It is a weird issue but one that wasn’t detrimental to gameplay since 65 FPS is plenty of performance for smooth gameplay. It was just worth noting because there does seem to be something different going on in World of Warcraft between single and dual core CPU."


Note that they tested both the top Intel and AMD Dual Core processors.


"For our readers that don’t live and die by whether or not they got in 4 hours on a Counter Strike Source server after work, and simply want solid gaming action on a newer mid or high end video card, an AMD Athlon 64 running at 2.0GHz or Intel Pentium at 3GHz will likely meet your needs. Be aware that as your Intel CPUs start dropping below 3GHz and your AMD CPUs below 2GHz, you are likely going to see it negatively impact your system’s gaming ability depending on your video card.


For our died-in-the-wool gamers that are spending a few hundred dollars or more on your high end video cards, make sure your AMD Athlon 64 processors are at least 2.4GHz in processor speed, and your Intel processors clock in at least at the 3.2GHz mark. If you let your CPUs fall below these levels, odds are that you are not using your GPU to its fullest ability."

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...VudGh1c2lhc3Q=

You just figured this out? next time spend more time looking at reviews and stuff at tomshardware or anandtech
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post #33 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by one43637
i've never used a dual boot setup, so i can't say from experience. i have, however, played that map before on my current setup and haven't experienced and sudden drop in frames using 81.98.

then again, i'm also not using x64 version of windows so i can only speak from my experience.

if you find a fix, let us know.
Well, I played with BF2 a bit - another thing that bothered me besides the low framerate in certain spots, was the really nasty horizontal tearing that was occuring (I'm running widescreen on a 2005FPW). I forced Vsync on, and the game runs much, much smoother now - however, there are still times on Clean Sweep (right inside the hanger near the jet) where the frame rate drops considerably. Still don't know what's causing that, but the tearing is cured.
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post #34 of 41
Allow me to summarize what everyone has said:

Single core processors are the best processors for gaming
Dual core are better for multitasking

Everyone says that Dual Core is "the processor of the future".

How long do we have to wait for "the future" to get here? a year? 2 years? I usually upgrade my computer every year.

Another thought:

The FX60 is supposedly the best gaming processor of all time, it is Dual Core......
post #35 of 41
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I "figured it out" quite a while ago darklord. I posted the review to support my opinion as many dual core owners have continued to insist that dual core gaming is currently the best solution.

I don't appreciate your sarcasm, by the way. Grow up.
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wish i have read this one day ago, since i just bought the 165 with stepping 0550... hope the BF2 new patch fixed the problems that few posters mentioned earlier.
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Just wait until Windows Vista comes out and uses directx 10. Dual core will be standard. And it helps lots with quake4
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Just wait until Windows Vista comes out and uses directx 10. Dual core will be standard. And it helps lots with quake4 as well
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Just wait until Windows Vista comes out and uses directx 10. Dual core will be standard for gaming. And it helps lots with quake4 as well
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Quote:
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wish i have read this one day ago, since i just bought the 165 with stepping 0550... hope the BF2 new patch fixed the problems that few posters mentioned earlier.
I wouldn't fret over it too bad yet kool168. If it's a UPMW, it should overclock very well - you could most likely get it to the levels your Sandy is reaching. Also, Nvidia's drivers are getting better for DC - use the absolute latest ones (latest beta's seem to work well). It doesn't look like you have a widescreen monitor, so you may not notice this stuff nearly as much. I'm under the impression that my sorrows in BF2 might stem from it not liking widescreen resolutions, and that Nvidia's previous horrible drivers (81.98) only exacerbated the issue. If you do see a lot of horizontal tearing in a game, just kick Vsync on - it makes it butter smooth, and completely eliminates all the tearing. That 7900GTX should make short work of it for you. If you have lots of probs, just post back in here or PM me and I'll try to help you out. You'll probably still see a stutter every once in a while, but it will be extremely short lived with the latest drivers.
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