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Ok so this used to be a Celeron D build but now it's a Pentium 4 build, decided that the 800MHz FSB and few extra MHz core clock was worth a few extra bucks....

Case: Thermaltake Soprano
CPU: Pentium 4 "Cedar Mill" 65nm, 2MB L2 cache, 800MHz FSB
MOBO: Intel 945G ATX mobo
RAM: Corsair Valueselect DDR2 533 (either 512MB or 2x512MB)
GPU: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 - Onboard
DVD: LGe DL DVD Burner
FDD: Samsung Floppy
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 80GB 7200RPM 8MB cache SATA II
PSU: Thermaltake 430W

Would this game better than a similar PC with a Celeron D 533MHz FSB 2.8GHz and a standalon Radeon X1600 or GeForce 7600 class video card?

So what do you guys think?
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Can't get much cheaper than that...except maybe a cheaper case and a cheaper PSU. Thermaltake has a 430W on newegg for about $30 and it is supposedly a very good PSU....even disregarding the price. And possibly a cheaper videocard......like a 6200TC (the x1300 seems kinda expensive considering its performance)

Edit: Or you could go the dark side......AMD. Their socket754 T-Force Biostar boards are very good (not to mention cheap). Pair that with a cheap Sempron 3000+ ($80), and use the mobos onboard video (integrated 6100). This would save you money on the mobo and videocard.
    
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Thanks for your suggestions, it does not need to be any cheaper necessarily since it is $50 under my budget, and also I wanted the nice power supply, LGA 775/DDR2 mobo and nice case to facilitate easy upgrades in the future, plus that mobo has 4 PCI slots which is always nice.

I was looking more for issues with compatibility since I stuck it together pretty hastily.
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get her some onboard video and go for amd sempron. better then celly and save on video.
btw x1300 pro sucks. it is almost like a 6100
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Thanks for your suggestions, it does not need to be any cheaper necessarily since it is $50 under my budget, and also I wanted the nice power supply, LGA 775/DDR2 mobo and nice case to facilitate easy upgrades in the future, plus that mobo has 4 PCI slots which is always nice.

I was looking more for issues with compatibility since I stuck it together pretty hastily.
Yeah no problem. I guess a skt775 would be a better option considering it supports DDR2 and dualcores (for the future).
    
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Yeah I plan on continually upgrading this system to keep it atlest up to date, I learned the hard way that no matter how speedy a computer is today, in 4 years or so it is going to be horribly out dated so it will be nice to easily be able to slap in some more RAM and a DX10 video card and upgrade her to Vista in 2 years or so

EDIT/// And remember, I want atleast a dedicated video card since I am going to occasionally game on it, I will most likely have Steam installed and all my steam games loaded on it and then maybe something like UT2004 or whatever just so whenever I am at her house I can still get my game on (and LAN with my brother with my laptop )
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If you plan on doing some light gaming consider thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131318

For $30 it should double your gaming performance over the x1300.
    
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oh I was like we can do MUCH cheaper

then I read that you want to upgrade later on

thats a great base system man
Celerons OC like crazy
if you can fit in a good 3rd party heatsink OC it as much as you can

maybe you aunt will give you a big fat wet kiss becuase its so fast!
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I applaud you for taking the time to find decent parts and not fall to building an onboard solution.

Well done.

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Some of you may be unused to me building budget rigs considering my specs and the fact that the last 3 systems I've built not counting my own had AMD 3700+ SD, 3800+ X2 Manchester or 4400+ X2 Toledo CPUs and Nvidia 7 series graphics LOL.

Anyways here's a little back story, my aunt has this REALLY old computer (I think its a Hewlett Packard) with a 166MHz Pentium (yes Pentium, not II or III) WAY too little RAM (likely under 100 megs, I think it said 96MB of something that wasnt even DDR LOL) I could go on and on but you get the idea of how slow this thing is, it can only run Windows 95 as well lol.

This monday I took my old Dell Optiplex GX240 over to her house and gave it to her but it has major problems connecting to the internet and even wont print and all kinds of stupid stuff like that so I decided to keep it for myself and maybe use as a server or something and buy her a whole new PC but since I'm only 15 and broke my other aunt offered to buy her a ~$700 PC.

This is what I've come up with so far, bare in mind that this is your run of the mill web browsing/email/word processing computer though I didnt want it to be THAT slow so I could occasionally play some older games on it also I wanted to be sure it would have all the latest tech like SATA II, DDR 2 and an LGA 775 processor to facilitate futureproofing, she's likely to have this for many years to come, so without further ado:

CPU: Intel Celeron D 336 Prescott, 533MHz FSB 2.8GHz with EMT64, $73
MOBO: Asus P5PL2 Socket T (LGA775) Intel 945P/ICH7 chipset, $93
RAM: 2x512MB Corsair Valueselect DDR2 533, $84
GPU: Sapphire X1300 256MB DDR PCIe, $84
HDD: 80GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 SATA II, $58
PSU: SeaSonic S12-380, $72
Case: Thermaltake Soprano - Black, $75
Total: $650 including below parts

On top of that I got an LG black DVD DL burner and a Samsung floppy drive since the DVD burner is the same one I have in every computer I've built and the floppy was $6 lmao.

The reason I chose these parts is:
CPU: It was about $2 more than the 2.66GHz and only a few $ more than the 2.56, figured nobody would miss those few bucks.
MOBO: Cheapest ATX board that supported 4xDimms of DDR2 (667 at that) and a Socket T CPU
RAM: Had 2 sticks of this very RAM in my system up until 2 weeks ago, they are now in my dad's new PC
HDD: Just got 3 of those for my dad's PC and they're great
Case: Also used for my dad's PC and its dead silent and awesome looking, great build quality also.
GPU: Reviews said it could run pretty much any game out there at moderate settings, plus its PCIe and supports DVI and other new features which are nice, including SM3 etc. Also its passively cooled which equals quiet


My overall design philosophy for this build was to have a budget PC that could run the occasional game here and there and above all else be future proof, also I wanted it to be as quiet as possible without spending too much extra cash to get it there, all of my friends and family as well as those who I've build PCs for know that every computer I've build is absolutely silent or as close to it as possible without sacrificing cooling or price and its kinda become a reputation thing for me

So what do you guys think?

dont forget to include windows xp or another operating system
as for me im a Linux guy gotta love Fedora hehe
but she will most likely like windows and thats another 100$
as for celerons i love em they overclock great and dont create too much heat!
but you wont be doing that hehe .... your aunt will have a better mobo than me..
im still on agp 8x
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