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But they can't do P6904, and you can't have one without the other. I'm not gonna make the rules in such a way that forces people to Fold WUs that they can't Fold...
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But they can't do P6904, and you can't have one without the other. I'm not gonna make the rules in such a way that forces people to Fold WUs that they can't Fold...
Yes, most of them probably can't. make the 6903/04 prohibited for less than 2600K/hexas?
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Almost certainly gonna happen, but then how do we make things fair? Either inflate the Bloom points, or stop one of the 2600ks form doing -hugeadv too.
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Wait for more 12 threaded CPUs to be available to the TC and create a slot to them alone?

Without kicking people out/throwing them to another slot i don't think there is anything you can do that will please everyone

not allowing the TCers to use the 12 cores fix to get the hugeadv units will balance things a little, but then, teams having a 970/980X/990X would slingshot past the others. PPD gap would be of about 20K between hexa+920/930/950 and 2x 2600K.
If you put the Bloomies with the 2500K/X6 cat they would be capable of doing a little more PPD, like 5K more than the last ones, and would create a huge surplus of folders to that position... :/

Only thing i see that can be done is only a hugeadv folder for each team, either hexa or 2600K, and leave things as is.

hexa doing hugadv+ 920/930/950 = 120K PPD
2600K hugeadv+2600K = 130K

Both in ideal conditions (native Linux, High speed RAM, 4GHz at least on the LGA1366, 5GHz on the LGA1155).
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You're misunderstanding; the rule would be to leave set ups as they are (2x 2600k + hex/Bloom), but only one CPU in both set ups would be allowed do -hugeadv. This would make the PPDs:

Hex/Bloom = 104k+38k = 142k
2x 2600k = 90k+50k = 140k

Need to confirm the numbers for Bloom and 2600k without -hugeadv, but I think they're close to the real thing.
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You're misunderstanding; the rule would be to leave set ups as they are (2x 2600k + hex/Bloom), but only one CPU in both set ups would be allowed do -hugeadv. This would make the PPDs:

Hex/Bloom = 104k+38k = 142k
2x 2600k = 90k+50k = 140k

Need to confirm the numbers for Bloom and 2600k without -hugeadv, but I think they're close to the real thing.
Let's just make sure we try to compare apples to apples. Granpa_01 has what, 5 hexas, and only 1 is doing 104k ppd. If we're comparing Golden to Golden, have to find the absolute top ppd for 2600k and Bloomfield as well. Not sure we've got that yet.
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I've not yet seen a 2600k doing 90k; the best is 88k (though 86k seems more likely), with less than optimal RAM. Since there's a bit of performance to be exploited from that, I'm happy saying 90k is the best from a 2600k. Maybe you can hit 95k, in some awesome cases, but we can have some leeway. Anything will be an improvement from where we are now, right?
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You're misunderstanding; the rule would be to leave set ups as they are (2x 2600k + hex/Bloom), but only one CPU in both set ups would be allowed do -hugeadv. This would make the PPDs:

Hex/Bloom = 104k+38k = 142k
2x 2600k = 90k+50k = 140k

Need to confirm the numbers for Bloom and 2600k without -hugeadv, but I think they're close to the real thing.
I thought that was what i said... I'm getting so much confused...
Must have been already discussed and i haven't read it, sorry...
Either way, i agree with that

please don't confuse me more...

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Let's just make sure we try to compare apples to apples. Granpa_01 has what, 5 hexas, and only 1 is doing 104k ppd. If we're comparing Golden to Golden, have to find the absolute top ppd for 2600k and Bloomfield as well. Not sure we've got that yet.
i agree with sstnt.

Although i believe that those values were thrown out, just in case they're not, not all hexas are doing 100K+ PPD. a realistic number would be 90-95K, and for 2600K a solid 85K, although not all of them reach this much doing hugeadv. For regular bigadv, 50K for the 2600K IIRC.
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You really should go read the other posts then. We've already said that we're going by the maximum PPDs.
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You really should go read the other posts then. We've already said that we're going by the maximum PPDs.
But that's more than 400 posts...

can't you resume in a little sentence the main ideas? Pleeeaaaseee?
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