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post #3831 of 7257
Yes me, eh?

Well my posted numbers are clear too; the competition was closer when things we're unrestricted. I really don't care if I get more points... I just want some excitement. If all I was worried about was points, I'd say to hell with the tc.


But I won't. I just wanted to see a close race. Like I told you when this change was made, I was willing to drop the hugeadv to keep my team together. That was as long as the change made things competitive.

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I'm not saying you're only interested in the points. However, I can't imagine how giving you (and other 2x 2600k teams) an advantage will make things any better.

 

You came in first with 2x 2600ks... but the next three teams were all hex/Bloom teams. Seriously, the closest other 2600k team was in 5th, 1.8mil points behind you. Assuming -bigadv -> -hugeadv would give an extra 45k, that's still only 1.4mil over the month (not even accounting for the increase you team would get). And along with that, the teams who ended last month in 2nd-4th would see no increase.

 

If you can justify that allowing both 2600ks to do -hugeadv would make things more competitive, then we can discuss it. But if everything else stayed the same, wouldn't your team just win again anyway?

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Ive got it, for jan put all the teams in one division and let everyone be able to hugeadv their i7's. Halfway through jan things might become convoluted anyways if they change the 6903 deadline to where some 2600k's can hit it and some cant.

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I think we need to devise a scoring system where each team gets points for each member's standing in their respective category (with bonus points for winning a category). The team with the highest rankings across categories would win. Then the race stays tight between teams in each division for the entire month, distributing value of all the folders on a team, and de-emphasizing the importance of i7's.
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That's an idea elo, but I feel it's gonna take a lot of administration time and it might be hard to find a system that the majority is satisfied with.
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I think we need to devise a scoring system where each team gets points for each member's standing in their respective category (with bonus points for winning a category). The team with the highest rankings across categories would win. Then the race stays tight between teams in each division for the entire month, distributing value of all the folders on a team, and de-emphasizing the importance of i7's.


 



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That's an idea elo, but I feel it's gonna take a lot of administration time and it might be hard to find a system that the majority is satisfied with.


 

I posed that question to the captains in that meeting earlier this year (in Steam, when we were discussing X6 and 2500ks).

 

Everyone said no. Like instantly. They called me hurtful things. :(
 

 

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I think we need to devise a scoring system where each team gets points for each member's standing in their respective category (with bonus points for winning a category). The team with the highest rankings across categories would win. Then the race stays tight between teams in each division for the entire month, distributing value of all the folders on a team, and de-emphasizing the importance of i7's.

That seems like the format that was used to the f@hlympics, wich was pretty nice. I would endorse this, if my opinion can count for something that is tongue.gif
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I posed that question to the captains in that meeting earlier this year (in Steam, when we were discussing X6 and 2500ks).

Everyone said no. Like instantly. They called me hurtful things. frown.gif

I think people would be more receptive to it now, especially given the bigadv changes that are coming on the horizon.
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I dunno... I'd like to see how SMP-only changes things.

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What if you did this:

Base everyone scores off of the others in their category but then multiply it by some exponent so it is not linear. That way, your score for the month is dependent on both your total score and the scores of all the others in your category.

So, for example:

Take the ten scores of a particular category and remove the top and bottom two. Take the average of the six remaining scores and use that as a baseline. Then take the ratio of the person's score and the baseline. Lastly put that score to the 1.25th power.

So, the final scores for this month for the D1 i7 folders would look something like this:

167

(total of middle 6 folders in millions / 6 = baseline
12.17 / 6 = 2.02

1st - desert rat - 2.7 million points == (2.70 / 2.02) ^ 1.25 = 1.43 points
5th - digigami - 2.16 == (2.16 / 2.02) ^ 1.25 = 1.08
9th - Josh - 1.42 == (1.42 / 2.02) ^ 1.25 = .64
10th - crazy - 0.45 == (0.45 / 2.02) ^ 1.25 = .153

This way you gets points based on ranking of the 10 people, but it is also dependent on how well or poorly you do in comparison to everyone else.

when applied to all categories:
This would make it more competitive because the competition would be about beating the others in your category. So, if a cat2 folder were to do a lot better than the others, he might get a score of 1.7 for the month. This means that he may well be one of the biggest helps to the team.

The competition would overall be more competitive because all categories would matter. Points become about competitiveness and consistency within categories, not total points.
Edited by hoth17 - 12/3/11 at 5:37pm
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