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OK ,Thanks Ehume. I think I will just get the Noctua ,and cram it in there some way. I need to get cooler ,and I am certain that that monster ,and some arctic silver or MX-3 will chill things in my box!! Thanx again.
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OK ,Thanks Ehume. I think I will just get the Noctua ,and cram it in there some way. I need to get cooler ,and I am certain that that monster ,and some arctic silver or MX-3 will chill things in my box!! Thanx again.
Just wanted to let you know, I recieved my NH-D14 today and I didn't even open Noctua's thermal paste, I used a MX-3 I had ordered, I recommend MX3 for sure
    
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There are people who swear by Noctua's TIM. I found it equivalent to a couple other high end pastes.
Edited by ehume - 9/11/10 at 9:16pm
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Oh ,Man! you lucky stiff! I was just looking at that new arctic silver 5 ,and the ceramique . MX-3 seems a winner . The Zalman I am using now seems low-grade.
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There are people who swear by Noctua's TIM. I found it equivalent to a couple other high end pastes.
I need to ask you something.

Is it normal that the Noctua NH-D14 vibrates?

Mine is vibrating all the time (Although it makes no noise, it just vibrates I think maybe because of the fans).

Is it normal?

Also, is it normal that the NH-D14 bends like few milimeters ? I mean it's been like that since I installed it didnt bend any more, im just worried if it should be 100% straight or it can be few mm bent?
    
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An NH-D14 that vibrates? And bends?

Mine has vibrated when I had unbalanced fans in it. You need to take your fans out, energize them and hold them in various positions to see if one of them vibrates.

An NH-D14 that bends? Does the D14 seem to separate from its socket when it does this? Does your MB flex? Or is it impossible to tell?

Sounds like something is not tightened up in the mount. If that happened to me I would take the entire thing off - everything involving the D14 - and start over:

First, make sure your mb screws are fully tightened. Zero play.
Next, follow the Noctua directions explicitly (yes, RTFM) and put the backplate back on. I can't remember which installations use a cushion, and which do not. Make sure the backplate is completely tight. Do the same with the bracket. Then tighten down the screws that hold the heatsink to the bracket. Tighten them down until they stop.

With all of the mount screws tightened all the way, the only possible place left for any play in the mount is the hold-down springs. If they allow any sag, one of them is not strong enough. If that happens, switch the screws and see if the sag continues.

If the cooler is sagging but the mount is not, you are loosening the TIM each time it moves. At the least, you are pulling the heatsink away from the cpu's ihs, which will reduce heat transfer.


You have a Gigabyte board, so I don't believe the mb is bending, especially with the mounting screws fully tightened. But you need to look carefully at your entire mb-heatsink ensemble.

If my D14 sags as much as a millimeter I'd be surprised.

Good luck.
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No, the motherboard does not bend for sure.

Only the cooler seems to be a little bit bend but just like 1mm? I mean on the picture:




You can't even see it :/
    
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Looking at that picture, I'm wondering if the mb tray is bending a little, but the only place it shows is the D14, because the D14 is the only thing that sticks out.

Look very carefully at where the heatsink meets the cpu. A dental mirror would work. Also, you can pull your middle fan and check the tightness of the heatsink hold-down screws.

I do remember once when I had two 38mm fans on my D14 and the MB was flat - horizontal - the fans pulled the fin stacks away from the center. So I did this:



to tighten up that space. It raised my temps 3+ degrees.

Also, earlier than that, I figured it was heavier than a Megahalems, which had sagged. So without bothering to check with my pocket level I put in some zipties to "hold it up." Increased my temps by 5c. Clearly I had pulled one side of the heatsink off the cpu.

Bottom line, I think, is that your whole system is bending a little, and the D14 is at the end of a lever arm so it can show the extent of the bending. If your temps are good, 1mm or less is nothing to worry about.
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I've checked everything..

My only answer to this is the MB tray from the case bending a little due to the cables behind making pressure with the side panel, could that be it?
    
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I've checked everything..

My only answer to this is the MB tray from the case bending a little due to the cables behind making pressure with the side panel, could that be it?
In general, steel can bend. How tight is the space behind the mb tray? Do you have to lean on the right side panel to make it fit?

Also, I think we cross-posted. See my post above, the one with the bungee cord pic.
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