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*sits back and waits for zodac's response*
I don't think zodac is going to even think twice about what I said.

I was commenting on the thing the one hater in the suggestion thread said. Not directed at anyone else but him
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F@H could possibly warrant it because folding contributes to society, but here, having the folding postbit and badge is just e-peen. It makes the folders feel good, and works to bring more people into folding. And that's what we want to do with WhatPulse; it feels good and we want our official Overclock.Net team to gain more members.
We're representing OCN, so we might as well do it properly.
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Make sure you link back to this thread for more discussion on the topic, Suggestion threads are for giving ideas and not really for discussion about them. Adding a +1 is completely pointless.

Here is my take, as an active Whatpulser and (not as recently) Folder as well a regular member AND a moderator. I think that's enough sub-groups to have a well formed opinion... Post bits would be fun but badges would be a bit much unless we really relegate it to much higher levels. I do not think this can be compared to HWBot or Folding although I will admit I don't have too great an understanding of HWBot. Here is why:
  1. Folding and HWBot require actual work. It is rather difficult to 'cheat' in Folding. Whatpulse, however, is much easier to fake keystrokes. As long as a program to generate them isn't doing an ungodly amount you would never know. And if there were a 'tangible' (figuratively speaking) prize, there would be more incentive to cheat the system.
  2. When you join a new team in Folding, your points do not come over with you. This means that any badge or rank you see for Folding on OCN was accomplished while they were on the Overclock.net team. Giving badges for effort and contribution to OCN when the person may never have contributed anything for OCN is pointless.
  3. We have 166 members total. Out of the hundreds of thousands of members we have, 166 have joined. Imagine if this doesn't stay popular in a year after people have wiped their hard drives and/or stopped using their PCs so much. We'll have 10 badges on OCN and that is it. It will be pretty sad. I'd say when we get over 500 members, THEN we can think about having some recognition.
  4. Folding (and to a lesser extent HWBot) accomplishes something. Advertising and giving recognition for an actual cause or effort seems reasonable and warranted, especially when the folders are paying for power, sacrificing performance, etc. Whatpulse is not comparable.

Anyway, there are a few reasons I thought up right now about why I can't really stand behind this. I know there are more because we've talked about this before but I can't seem to remember what they all were. I really like Whatpulse and will continue to recruit and have it installed on my computers but due to the nature of the program, I don't think is a good idea.
Edited by IEATFISH - 7/6/11 at 12:28pm
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I suppose that is logical, however, this is my logic:
Postbits that when clicked display information like Total Keys/Clicks and Keys per Day are doable (easy to fetch these numbers) but badges are a bit of a stretch. However I think a postbit with a 16x16 icon stolen from WhatPulse's website: http://whatpulse.org/favicon.ico
...would be a good idea. Badges, I wholeheartedly disagree with.
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Originally Posted by IEATFISH View Post
Make sure you link back to this thread for more discussion on the topic, Suggestion threads are for giving ideas and not really for discussion about them. Adding a +1 is completely pointless.

Here is my take, as an active Whatpulser and (not as recently) Folder as well a regular member AND a moderator. I think that's enough sub-groups to have a well formed opinion... Post bits would be fun but badges would be a bit much unless we really relegate it to much higher levels. I do not think this can be compared to HWBot or Folding although I will admit I don't have too great an understanding of HWBot. Here is why:
  1. Folding requires actual work. It is rather difficult to 'cheat' in Folding. Whatpulse, however, is much easier to fake keystrokes. As long as a program to generate them isn't doing an ungodly amount you would never know. And if there were a 'tangible' (figuratively speaking) prize, there would be more incentive to cheat the system.
  2. When you join a new team in Folding, your points do not come over with you. This means that any badge or rank you see for Folding on OCN was accomplished while they were on the Overclock.net team. Giving badges for effort and contribution to OCN when the person may never have contributed anything for OCN is pointless.
  3. We have 166 members total. Out of the hundreds of thousands of members we have, 166 have joined. Imagine if this doesn't stay popular in a year after people have wiped their hard drives and/or stopped using their PCs so much. We'll have 10 badges on OCN and that is it. It will be pretty sad. I'd say when we get over 500 members, THEN we can think about having some recognition.
  4. Folding (and to a lesser extent HWBot) accomplishes something. Advertising and giving recognition for an actual cause or effort seems reasonable and warranted, especially when the folders are paying for power, sacrificing performance, etc. Whatpulse is not comparable.

Anyway, there are a few reasons I thought up right now about why I can't really stand behind this. I know there are more because we've talked about this before but I can't seem to remember what they all were. I really like Whatpulse and will continue to recruit and have it installed on my computers but due to the nature of the program, I don't think is a good idea.
I see your point with team changes, but I personally think postbits would help grow the team and as far as not doing anything productive, neither is HWBot.
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I suppose that is logical, however, this is my logic:
Postbits that when clicked display information like Total Keys/Clicks and Keys per Day are doable (easy to fetch these numbers) but badges are a bit of a stretch. However I think a postbit with a 16x16 icon stolen from WhatPulse's website: http://whatpulse.org/favicon.ico
...would be a good idea. Badges, I wholeheartedly disagree with.
This, although I am for badges.
    
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I think maybe a badge for 10mil 50mil 100mil 200mil 300mil etc... makes sense. No more than that.
The postbit is a good idea. I say we need to introduce this once we are in the Top 100.
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I see your point with team changes, but I personally think postbits would help grow the team and as far as not doing anything productive, neither is HWBot.

This, although I am for badges.
While I agree that HWBot doesn't do anything 'productive', it also isn't a passive thing to measure. A member of HWBot is actively attempting to get the highest score or fastest speed by tweaking, changing, and pushing their hardware. While some Whatpulse members may be actively attempting to type more often, it isn't a 'competition' of who can type the most. Sure, the rankings are based on that but if we were ACTUALLY competing we'd be sitting at our desk pushing as many keys as we could as fast as we could. And then Whatpulse would be stupid. Whatpulse only measures what you are already doing, not what you are capable of doing. They are not comparable.
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... so why do we need a postbit or things for WhatPulse?
Seriously guys?
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Why you trowling?
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