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First off, I am pretty new to all the OCing, so thanks in advance to whom ever helps me out with this.

Here are my system specs now:

AMD x64 X2 4200+
A8N32-SLI BIOS 1103
XFX 7800 256 MB GT GDDR3 Video Card
Dual Corsair XMS3200 1G 400MHz DDR memory chips (2-3-3-6 timing)
Windows XP Professional 64 bit SP1
120 GB Western Digital 7K 8MB Cache SATAII HD

With stock settings, I can run a 3D Mark 06 Prof (v1.02) and return with a result of 3988

This seems low to me. What are some of the settings I can change to improve performance? I have overclocked the CPU a bit, and the memory to 433 MHz just to test things out, but returned everything to their default BIOS settings since I really am not 100% confident in my settings. I do still have the 2-3-3-6 timings set.

Any ideas on what I can do?

In the past, I could OC the FSB a bit, but then the machine would just hang on startup.
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Did you test out your settings? I don't get why you weren't confident in them? If you can run some stress tests you're overclock is fine. What kind of cooling do you have?

Fill out your system specs (you can find a link to it in my signature).
Also, read up on the AMD guide to overclocking (again, you can find a link to it in my signature).
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One thing to remember that isn't in that guide is to make sure when you multiply the HTT by the HT Multiplier that it is less then 1000.

<201 = x5
201-250 = x4
251-333 = x3
 
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post #4 of 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by That_Guy
One thing to remember that isn't in that guide is to make sure when you multiply the HTT by the HT Multiplier that it is less then 1000.

<201 = x5
201-250 = x4
251-333 = x3
HTT and HT. Where are those and what does each one do?
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post #5 of 10
Jumperfree configuration
change sb to nb to Manual
change to desired htt frequency
then to change the ht mutiplier go to
Chipset
sb to nb frequency
set mutiplier

I am also new to overclocking and this board. There needs to be a overclocking guide more specific to this board. So us noobs don't get parinoid every time we change settings we're unsure of
By the way, whats your load and idle temps?

Mine are holding at 43c- 45c idle and 48c-50c full load on stock heatsink. The weird thing is that when I overclock to 2.4 ghz running prim95 on torture both cores
240x10
233 mem
240x4 htt
I get the same temps as stock default setting.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brnlahaze
HTT and HT. Where are those and what does each one do?
HTT is the AMD equivalent of the FSB and HT is Hyper Transport which is the HTT times a multiplier which you can find in the BIOS.
 
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post #7 of 10
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Ok, so I have the following set on my machine in the BIOS:

Advanced -> Jumper Free Config
SB to NB Overclock
Manual
SB to NB freq: 230

FID/VID Change
Processor Frequency Multiplier 10X

Advanced -> Chipset
SB to NB Frequency 4x

On Post, my memory shows as 433 as expected (216X2)
But now the CPU shows up at 2Ghz rather than the 2.2

What am I missing now?

Thanks again.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brnlahaze
Ok, so I have the following set on my machine in the BIOS:

Advanced -> Jumper Free Config
SB to NB Overclock
Manual
SB to NB freq: 230

FID/VID Change
Processor Frequency Multiplier 10X

Advanced -> Chipset
SB to NB Frequency 4x

On Post, my memory shows as 433 as expected (216X2)
But now the CPU shows up at 2Ghz rather than the 2.2

What am I missing now?

Thanks again.
For starters i would recommend setting everything back to default settings and start with these settings, also dont forget to set a mem/divider if your going for a nice OC. I am also including a link that should help you out alot with this mobo. By no means am i an expert in this field this is just some tips from what i have found to work good.

Advanced -> Jumper Free Config
CPU FSB Frequency (To be determined - How high you want to OC)
SB to NB Overclock:
Manual
SB to NB Frequency = 200
Adjust PCIE Frequency = 100
PEG link mode = Disabled
Over-voltage cpu vcore Disabled
Over-voltage NB vcore Disabled
Over-voltage SB vcore Disabled
Over-voltage Hypertransport Disabled

Advanced -> Chipset
K8 to NB Frequency 4X (Start with 4 X)
K8 to NB linkwidth 16/16
SB to NB frequency 5X
SB to NB Linkwidth 16/16

Here is the link that should help you out greatly with this board and a similar CPU as yours. Good Luck!
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
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post #9 of 10
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Thanks for the guide ... that got things mostly where they need to be.

The last one is dealing with memory speed on this board.

I read over the posts, and more or less got the equation that:

mem speed=
([FSB Multiplier]/[integer({200 x FSB Multiplier}/Memory Limit)])xFSB

I went though that, did the math, and everything worked out as I was expecting. The calculations matched what CPUz said: 182.6MHz

How can I get my DDR back up to speed?

Here are the settings I have so far that are working:

FSB = 226
Multiplier = 10.5
Memory limit = 166

If I move the memory limit up to 183, I can't POST.
If I move the CPU up much more, windows doesn't load as it should and does the random crashing.

Things are getting closer though, thats for sure
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post #10 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by brnlahaze
Thanks for the guide ... that got things mostly where they need to be.

The last one is dealing with memory speed on this board.

I read over the posts, and more or less got the equation that:

mem speed=
([FSB Multiplier]/[integer({200 x FSB Multiplier}/Memory Limit)])xFSB

I went though that, did the math, and everything worked out as I was expecting. The calculations matched what CPUz said: 182.6MHz

How can I get my DDR back up to speed?

Here are the settings I have so far that are working:

FSB = 226
Multiplier = 10.5
Memory limit = 166

If I move the memory limit up to 183, I can't POST.
If I move the CPU up much more, windows doesn't load as it should and does the random crashing.

Things are getting closer though, thats for sure

There are alot of different settings to tinker with to get it stable, just takes a little time and testing. I am not sure what your memory timings are set at but you should start with relaxing those timings. If they are still set at 2.3.3.6 try 3.4.4.6 to start and bump the vdimm (DDR Voltage) up to 2.85.

Also you may have to up your vcore (processer voltage) a little at a time to get things stable. Stay within your cpu's voltage recommendations and watch your temps.

I would start with changing your memory timings then bump the thing up to where you were unstable and test. If still unstable try upping the vcore a little. If you bump it up and were successfully stable then keep going up a little at a time and keep testing. Once you have a nice OC to your liking you can always try tightning the memory timings a little at a time and keep testing for stability.

You almost have your ram up to DDR400 speed with your current OC, just a little more. 200.00 mhz = 200.00x2 (DDR400)

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