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Originally Posted by pauldovi
Your build looks strangly familiar! , you are building almost the exact same computer as mine.
Well, that's the whole point of this forum, right, to learn from other people's successes and get tips from the more experienced members. Thanks for building a kickass rig that I could base mine upon!

Does anyone have a recommendation on a fan controller? I'm tempted to make my own unless there's a really good one that I can just buy. Most of the ones I've seen either only run 3 or 4 fans or they only vary from 6-12V.
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ASUS is the world leader in making things that Intel says can't work, work. When Intel said you can't unlock the multis, ASUS figured it out, when Intel said that you can't use DDR2-800 on certain chipsets, ASUS got them to work....
This is in part true but as of right now, there has absolutely no word coming from ASUS if their 975X will support Conroe.

I've heard that through a BIOS update it may work but I also heard that current 975X boards do not have the correct VRM for Conroe so I'm completely unsure of what's going on with that.

Af for the Intel 975X working with a Conroe, that's because Intel modified the board to have the correct VRM, thus Conroe was able to bench on a 975X, their 975X that is.

Heck, I'm hoping ASUS does have an ace up their sleeve and confirm full support for Conroe with the P5WD2-E Premium through a BIOS update, just based on what Paul said.
They were also the only Mobo vendor to release a MoBo with Dual PCI-Ex16 slot MoBo, so they knew long before everybody else that the 955X was going to support CrossFire as well.

But if it doesn't have the correct VRM for Conroe then........time to buy the one that will support and sell the old one.
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Originally Posted by Mako
Well, that's the whole point of this forum, right, to learn from other people's successes and get tips from the more experienced members. Thanks for building a kickass rig that I could base mine upon!

Does anyone have a recommendation on a fan controller? I'm tempted to make my own unless there's a really good one that I can just buy. Most of the ones I've seen either only run 3 or 4 fans or they only vary from 6-12V.
It is an excellent build. I have spend hours apon hours researching every single component I bought. I am a highschool kid, so money was critical. That is why I bought the 920. I am a believer that the motherboard is extremely critical to a good computer. Many people slack on the motherboard, but I think it is more important than good cooling or good powersupplies. I am going to recommend that you make a few changes to your order.

Penitum D 920 < Better Price

ASUS 975X P5WD2-E Premium <Also a better price

Get 2 1GB sticks of the RAM, it is cheaper that way:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220142

Unless you really need the HDD space, go for a Raptor, it is well worth it!

You watercooling looks great (almost the same as mine as well), but I am going to make a few suggestions:

Heatercore- w/o AC

Tubing: Get the Primoflex it is worth it!

Resivoir get 5.25 bay, larger is better

For you clamps- Go to HomeDepot and ask for #5 hose clamps, they are cheaper and much stronger!

Water additive- use AntiFreeze
WC

Fans- Go for 4 of them, here is a link to some great ones for cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150052

BTW:
When are you getting that new build? We need one more member in our folding team, "Performance Preslers." If you get the new build together, you can be on our team.
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post #14 of 57
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Originally Posted by pauldovi
It is an excellent build. I have spend hours apon hours researching every single component I bought. I am a highschool kid, so money was critical. That is why I bought the 920. I am a believer that the motherboard is extremely critical to a good computer. Many people slack on the motherboard, but I think it is more important than good cooling or good powersupplies. I am going to recommend that you make a few changes to your order.

Penitum D 920 < Better Price

ASUS 975X P5WD2-E Premium <Also a better price

Get 2 1GB sticks of the RAM, it is cheaper that way:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220142
Thanks

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Unless you really need the HDD space, go for a Raptor, it is well worth it!
Do the Raptors really give that much better performance? Is it noticeable in games or just for all-around performance?

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You watercooling looks great (almost the same as mine as well), but I am going to make a few suggestions:

Heatercore- w/o AC

Tubing: Get the Primoflex it is worth it!

Resivoir get 5.25 bay, larger is better

For you clamps- Go to HomeDepot and ask for #5 hose clamps, they are cheaper and much stronger!

Water additive- use AntiFreeze
WC

Fans- Go for 4 of them, here is a link to some great ones for cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150052
Thanks. Do you just use straight antifreeze or mixed? If mixed, what's the recommended ratio?
4 of those fans would be rather loud. Do you use a fan controller in your rig? I think I might get this Sunbeam (link). It's got 4 20W channels so it should be able to control up to 8 fans and it's cheap.

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BTW:
When are you getting that new build? We need one more member in our folding team, "Performance Preslers." If you get the new build together, you can be on our team.
I should be ordering by the end of the week. I did SETI@home for years but stopped when they switched to BOINC. I should get back into that sort of thing though, so sure, I'll join your folding team.
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Originally Posted by Mako
Thanks


Do the Raptors really give that much better performance? Is it noticeable in games or just for all-around performance?


Thanks. Do you just use straight antifreeze or mixed? If mixed, what's the recommended ratio?
4 of those fans would be rather loud. Do you use a fan controller in your rig? I think I might get this Sunbeam (link). It's got 4 20W channels so it should be able to control up to 8 fans and it's cheap.


I should be ordering by the end of the week. I did SETI@home for years but stopped when they switched to BOINC. I should get back into that sort of thing though, so sure, I'll join your folding team.
For the Raptor Questions:

Windows boots so fast, my internet connect has not even fully initialized by the time Windows is done. I didn't even know it had to initialize. Programs open much quicker, files transfers are better. For gaming, you would have any in-game help, but the load time goes in half or better. It is not that load either.

For the anti-freeze, use 5%, or a little under a cup per gallon. I have 4 of the fans, and yes they are load. No fan controller. I am a pagmatic person, but hey go for the fan controller!
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Originally Posted by Mako
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GFX: XFX 7900GT (link) $309
I am not entirely sure about that high spec card seeing that dx10 is coming out soon(i think), just my personal opinion that you should buy a slightly less pricey card for now and then get the really good card later on which will have dx10 and sm4 support etc.
otherwise the rig looks good.
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Seems good to me thats a nice setup but when it comes to a CPU maybe you should wait for the Conroe.
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Seems good to me thats a nice setup but when it comes to a CPU maybe you should wait for the Conroe.
He's planning to move to Conroe anyway, that new rig is a world of difference from his current one - to have to wait several months on obselete hardware seems pretty unbearable.

I would agree on backing off on the budget for the graphics card due to the advent of DirectX10 cards out next year (any of the mid range cards would destroy that ti4200 you have right now). Besides that it seems like a solid setup.
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He's planning to move to Conroe anyway, that new rig is a world of difference from his current one - to have to wait several months on obselete hardware seems pretty unbearable.

I would agree on backing off on the budget for the graphics card due to the advent of DirectX10 cards out next year (any of the mid range cards would destroy that ti4200 you have right now). Besides that it seems like a solid setup.
That is pointless. Waiting for hardware software advancement it stupid because when the new thing come around, there is something newer right over the horizon. And things get delayed (Vista / DX10)....
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That is pointless. Waiting for hardware software advancement it stupid because when the new thing come around, there is something newer right over the horizon. And things get delayed (Vista / DX10)....
If you have the money to buy new stuff every time it comes out fair enough, think I speak for most though that that is not a viable option. DirectX10 is a total rebuild with new shaders and non-backwards compatibility, compared to anything else before it its quite a step away from what we're used to, IMO thats reason enough to not splash out on high end "old" tech and then later splash out again on DX10 cards which will most likely be expensive.

I agree it is pointless if you have money coming out of your ears.
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