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Originally Posted by mauguai
If you have the money to buy new stuff every time it comes out fair enough, think I speak for most though that that is not a viable option. DirectX10 is a total rebuild with new shaders and non-backwards compatibility, compared to anything else before it its quite a step away from what we're used to, IMO thats reason enough to not splash out on high end "old" tech and then later splash out again on DX10 cards which will most likely be expensive.

I agree it is pointless if you have money coming out of your ears.
I dont have money, I am a highschool kid, and I pay for all my stuff.

But when DX10 comes out, it is going to be just a few months until DDR3, then just a few months until a socket change, then just a few months to this and that. If you worry about the new technology you are always going to be waiting. It is a game, a game of knowing when to wait and when not to.
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The reason I'm making a big deal about DirectX 10 is because its different from the things u mentioned. Its a big enough departure from what we currently have in that its being rewritten from scratch to offer more efficiency and new shader tech. You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make.

Stuff like dual channel, hyperthreading and DDR1/2/3 are nothing to get excited about I personally couldn't have cared less about those particular technologies and what they had to offer in terms of performance.

The way I see it if you were willing to splash out on a high end graphics card then you care about taking full advantage of what games have to offer, you'll have to do it all over again when DX10 is out. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most people like to get some mileage out of their equipment before having to shell out for something newer and better.

My 9800 pro lasted me 3 years before its started showing its age and now with this 7800GS i'm expecting at least 2 years before switching again.
post #23 of 57
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Originally Posted by mauguai
The reason I'm making a big deal about DirectX 10 is because its different from the things u mentioned. Its a big enough departure from what we currently have in that its being rewritten from scratch to offer more efficiency and new shader tech. You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make.

Stuff like dual channel, hyperthreading and DDR1/2/3 are nothing to get excited about I personally couldn't have cared less about those particular technologies and what they had to offer in terms of performance.

The way I see it if you were willing to splash out on a high end graphics card then you care about taking full advantage of what games have to offer, you'll have to do it all over again when DX10 is out. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most people like to get some mileage out of their equipment before having to shell out for something newer and better.

My 9800 pro lasted me 3 years before its started showing its age and now with this 7800GS i'm expecting at least 2 years before switching again.
But people are going to be waiting for ever! When is DX10 coming out? Everyone said, "Ohh I can wait until September." Now they are looking at January at the earliest. Why spend 10 months running real old hardware in suspense? The first DX10 cards arn't going to be that great anyways... I am going to wait a little to upgrade to DX10 so they can get better cards out. So you are looking at a year plus! Most people upgrade once a year or more.
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Ok I see where you're coming from now, we're talking from extremes here. You seem to be able to justify upgrading every year and nipping at the heel's of new technology, whereas I prefer to get something substantial and upgrade when thing's start to show their age.

It is quite apparent the original poster Mako is not someone who has a tendency to upgrade often considering he has tech from almost 4 years ago. If he can afford to make another upgrade shortly after this new card (or whether he even cares) fair play to him, its his choice. I was merely speaking from a more cost effective approach.

Furthermore he would not need to wait in suspense on "real old hardware" - I suggested a mid range card, something like a 6800GS can easily play the majority of new games at high detail.
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Wow, getting to be a rather heated discussion.
I haven't upgraded frequently in the past, but the 3 computers I've had, either my parents paid for or I was in college (i.e., super broke). Now, spending money on a PC isn't that big of an issue.

I'll upgrade to Conroe later on if I need to and I'll upgrade to DX10 when I need to. DX10 is slated for January, but I don't know when the 1st DX10 games will be out, probably not for a while after that. I certainly won't be upgrading to Vista until I need DX10 for a certain game that I want to play. So I probably won't need a DX10 card for a while.

The main thing I want to do now is play Oblivion at 1600x1200 with full eye-candy, and unfortunately, a mid-range card won't really do that. I'm not even sure that a 7900GT will do it.
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post #26 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mako
Wow, getting to be a rather heated discussion.
I haven't upgraded frequently in the past, but the 3 computers I've had, either my parents paid for or I was in college (i.e., super broke). Now, spending money on a PC isn't that big of an issue.

I'll upgrade to Conroe later on if I need to and I'll upgrade to DX10 when I need to. DX10 is slated for January, but I don't know when the 1st DX10 games will be out, probably not for a while after that. I certainly won't be upgrading to Vista until I need DX10 for a certain game that I want to play. So I probably won't need a DX10 card for a while.

The main thing I want to do now is play Oblivion at 1600x1200 with full eye-candy, and unfortunately, a mid-range card won't really do that. I'm not even sure that a 7900GT will do it.
Erm I think people here are actually running their 7800gtx's on 1024 with high detail lol. It'll be a killer rig even more so with respect to what you're upgrading from.
post #27 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mako
Wow, getting to be a rather heated discussion.
I haven't upgraded frequently in the past, but the 3 computers I've had, either my parents paid for or I was in college (i.e., super broke). Now, spending money on a PC isn't that big of an issue.

I'll upgrade to Conroe later on if I need to and I'll upgrade to DX10 when I need to. DX10 is slated for January, but I don't know when the 1st DX10 games will be out, probably not for a while after that. I certainly won't be upgrading to Vista until I need DX10 for a certain game that I want to play. So I probably won't need a DX10 card for a while.

The main thing I want to do now is play Oblivion at 1600x1200 with full eye-candy, and unfortunately, a mid-range card won't really do that. I'm not even sure that a 7900GT will do it.
A 7900GT will do it, but it will be groaning... Best bet is for SLI 7900GT, for $600 they easily out-perform a $500 7900GTX.
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post #28 of 57
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The P5WD2-E is a Crossfire board though, not SLI.
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Opps... I though I was in another thread... sorry.
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argh... I did some searching and it seems that the best bang for the buck would be 2 x 7900GT. However, the nF4 mobos don't OC nearly as well as the Intel ones, and they most likely aren't Conroe compatible. The Presler's gain a performance lead if they OC above 4.5 and I don't think the nF4 boards can get them that high.

I guess I should get an x1900xt for ~$440.
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