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Just started leak testing. So this weekend... it's PLAY TIME!!!
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Just started leak testing. So this weekend... it's PLAY TIME!!!
I skipped that! I couldn't wait! I am 17 and pacient is not a word to me.
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dammit.... stupid ass Alt+Num1 hotlink ****...

This is the abridged version of what I was trying to say before my post got erased...

Pacient isn't a word but Patience is, so you are correct.

The rig is up and running now. I need to change my System Specs... Everything is still at stock.

Current temps @ stock clocks and voltages:
Room temp: 25ºC
Idle: MB 34ºC CPU 34ºC
Dual Prime95: MB 36ºC CPU 42ºC

I expected them to be lower...
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post #44 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mako
dammit.... stupid ass Alt+Num1 hotlink ****...

This is the abridged version of what I was trying to say before my post got erased...

Pacient isn't a word but Patience is, so you are correct.

The rig is up and running now. I need to change my System Specs... Everything is still at stock.

Current temps @ stock clocks and voltages:
Room temp: 25ºC
Idle: MB 34ºC CPU 34ºC
Dual Prime95: MB 36ºC CPU 42ºC

I expected them to be lower...
That is surprising. My computer at 4.2Ghz idles at about 31C and full 100% dual F@H 45C.

Try re-appling your AS5. Get a sandwitch baggy and then put it over your finger. Apply a BB size of AS5 to the middle of the processor, then spread it arround with your finger. You want the layer to be so thin that you can almost see through it. The thinner the better, in fact, AS5 suggest .003inches.

Another thing, you temperatures will drop 2-7C when the AS5 cures.

What me to just give you the secret numbers? We have the same setup, so you may want to start here:

This is what I have found to be the best settings:

Vcore to 1.4375
FSB to 300Mhz

Timings to: 3-3-3-4
RAM Vcore to 2.15V
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Thanks. I had used the Artic Ceramique that came with the blocks but I'll clean it off and use AS5.

There is a mount for an 80mm on the side door but it's not in a good location so I took the mount off, drilled a couple holes and put a 120 there. It's partially blocked by the braces but the airflow dropped the temps a little.

Current temps @ stock clocks and voltages (added door intake)
Room temp: 25ºC
Idle: MB 30ºC CPU 32ºC
Dual Prime95: MB 35ºC CPU 41ºC

I think I'll order two more fans to put on the back of the heater core.

Oh... I've got the pump at the lowest flow rate so that is probably making a difference. I'm still trying to get the last few air bubbles out. If I go with a higher flow it sucks the air bubbles down out of the reservoir.... I should have gotten a vertical res instead of a 5.25 bay one.
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post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mako
Thanks. I had used the Artic Ceramique that came with the blocks but I'll clean it off and use AS5.

There is a mount for an 80mm on the side door but it's not in a good location so I took the mount off, drilled a couple holes and put a 120 there. It's partially blocked by the braces but the airflow dropped the temps a little.

Current temps @ stock clocks and voltages (added door intake)
Room temp: 25ºC
Idle: MB 30ºC CPU 32ºC
Dual Prime95: MB 35ºC CPU 41ºC

I think I'll order two more fans to put on the back of the heater core.

Oh... I've got the pump at the lowest flow rate so that is probably making a difference. I'm still trying to get the last few air bubbles out. If I go with a higher flow it sucks the air bubbles down out of the reservoir.... I should have gotten a vertical res instead of a 5.25 bay one.
You are not suppose to run the pump at the lowest setting for long. It is suppose to ruin the pump life. Once you get the pump speed up to 5, your temps will drop a lot!
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I got almost all of the air out and the pump is running at full speed (5) now.

Began OCing and it's currently up to: FSB:300 Vcore:1.4375 so I'm at 4.2GHz.
It was stable up to about 4GHz at 1.4V but to get 4.2 stable I had to go to 1.4375 like you suggested. I've dual primed it for 4 hrs. Temps got up to 51C. I wanted to see how hot things were so I opened up the case and noticed that one of the tubes collapsed!!! I put 3 plastic clamps on it to keep it round as a temporary fix. I'll need to replace it with a longer tube so that the bend isn't so tight (good thing I've got extra tubing and that I had extra clamps...).

I haven't messed with the RAM yet, just running at 1:1 with default timings. I guess that's next on the list. GFX is still at stock as well.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help.
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post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mako
I got almost all of the air out and the pump is running at full speed (5) now.

Began OCing and it's currently up to: FSB:300 Vcore:1.4375 so I'm at 4.2GHz.
It was stable up to about 4GHz at 1.4V but to get 4.2 stable I had to go to 1.4375 like you suggested. I've dual primed it for 4 hrs. Temps got up to 51C. I wanted to see how hot things were so I opened up the case and noticed that one of the tubes collapsed!!! I put 3 plastic clamps on it to keep it round as a temporary fix. I'll need to replace it with a longer tube so that the bend isn't so tight (good thing I've got extra tubing and that I had extra clamps...).

I haven't messed with the RAM yet, just running at 1:1 with default timings. I guess that's next on the list. GFX is still at stock as well.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help.
After you get your tubes issue worked out, and your AS5 cures you should get around 46C full 100% load on both processors. That is what I get.
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post #49 of 57
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I haven't messed with the RAM yet, just running at 1:1 with default timings. I guess that's next on the list.
When you do, get a nice devider running to crank up the speed, like a 3:5 or so, depending on your processor bus speed and you limits on your memory. Don't run it at 1:1, defeats the purpose of the extra bandwith of DDR2 vs. DDR1, and the higher latencies.
    
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When you do, get a nice devider running to crank up the speed, like a 3:5 or so, depending on your processor bus speed and you limits on your memory. Don't run it at 1:1, defeats the purpose of the extra bandwith of DDR2 vs. DDR1, and the higher latencies.
We have argued this over and over! DDR2 allows for higher FSB, that was its intented function. There is no gain in running your memory faster than your FSB. DDR2 only shines when you start to get into FSB's like 1066, 1200, or 1333.

less informed/uninformed. Some people have a better grounding in physics therefore will question the 2:3 as better bandwidth vs 1:1 as the physics do not make sense. Pure numbers, well yes it might seem that 400MHz DDR2 (at the same latencies) would be slower than 533 on an 800MHz subsystem but it is not the case (again, in my opinion).

From: Geil USA

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3. Memory

Data are read and transferred in and out of memory modules all the time. Faster transfer rate simply means more efficient data flow could be adopted under larger bandwidth. Just like the network bandwidth, larger bandwidth means faster data flow and less lag. To achieve best performance, CPU and memory modules must run at the same FSB (Front Side Bus) frequency. In order for memory modules to run at 1:1 ratio to the CPU’s operating FSB, a fine graded memory module must present.
From: Corsair Memory

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Corsair Memory today announced that the latest XMS2-5400UL is the first true ultra low latency memory to reach the DDR2-1066 milestone. Using the new XMS2 5400UL memory modules, Wesley Fink at Anandtech successfully overclocked the memory to deliver 1:1 CPU:RAM synchronicity. Prior to the Corsair 5400UL, no other DDR2 memory was capable of surpassing the 1GHz barrier. At the 1:1 ratio, system performance is at its best and potential bandwidth bottlenecks removed.
These tests run by Ropey show that there is no performance increase running memory faster than FSB.


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