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yea i understand, but im getting mixed opionions. "the 3800+ prevails in the review i read and which was posted for gaming wise atleast, and most others, although it can be overclocked a lot if i overclock the 3800+ wont it match up?
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Over Clocking Ability:
920 > 3700 > x2 3800

Stock Performance
x2 3800 > 920 > 3700

As of now (gaming) performance
3700 > x2 3800 > 920

Future (gaming) performance
x2 3800 > 920 > 3700

Multitasking
920 > x2 3800 > 3700

Personally, I would pinch my pennies and aim for an x2 4400
    
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the 920 is cooler then the 3800 and will oc alot more... (look it is Overclock.net so oc is alwayes an option! you cant ask me about a cpu without taking count of oc...)
How do you plan on getting a 920 cooler than a 3800?
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I am willing to take my 920 against your 3700+ ... You name the benchmark, I am ready.

A kid can overclock the 920 to 4.0Ghz... That will beat the 3700+ and the 3800+...

Here is a very interesting review by OCAU.net, it compared the 920 to the 3800+ at stock speeds, and then at speeds they consider the average overclocker can reach (reasonbly on air). It shows that the 3800+ edges the 920 at stocks speeds, but overclocked the 920 wins most benchmarks.

http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=1

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Overclocked to its maximum stable frequency we found the 920 outrunning a maxed out X2 3800+ in almost all benchmarks.
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For the time being we recommend a buyer considering an entry level dual core processor to have a good look at Intel’s Pentium D 920.
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paul...
Do you think the Intel 920 having 4x the cache has anything to do with it
Apples and oranges!
    
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Even 8x more than the 3700 sandy

However (back on topic), he mentioned he will not be overclocking anytime soon so an x2 3800 would be his best bet for entry level dual core.
    
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I am willing to take my 920 against your 3700+ ... You name the benchmark, I am ready.
Your watercooled 920 is nearly 2 minutes slower on SuperPi than Crash's 3700 on air cooling. There's 1 right there and that's not even utilizing AMD3DNow! technology. I don't doubt that you can overclock a 920 to do well in benchmarks, but I don't feel that it can keep up in games. If his main focus is gaming, I don't think it's the best option. The motherboard and cpu you're suggesting cost over $510 dollars. You could create a much faster gaming rig buying different parts. If his main focus is benchmarks or office applications, then it's worth a look. Keep in mind, you're also going to be paying more on your energy bill with the 920. It sounds trivial, but the last estimation I've seen shows it to be $15/year if idle, $55/year if full tilt.
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paul...
Do you think the Intel 920 having 4x the cache has anything to do with it
Apples and oranges!
Do with what?

I am trying to say, that this guys best bang for his buck is a Pentium D 920...
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paul...
Do you think the Intel 920 having 4x the cache has anything to do with it
Apples and oranges!
"PCs & Oranges"
at the end of the day pure speed will take any high tech cpu...
so having a high tech cpu with lots of speed cant be a bad thing
thats why the 920 is better... dont look at stock... its Overclock.net!!!
the 920 will oc like crazy and will give better pref... dmn i want one
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Your watercooled 920 is nearly 2 minutes slower on SuperPi than Crash's 3700 on air cooling. There's 1 right there and that's not even utilizing AMD3DNow! technology. I don't doubt that you can overclock a 920 to do well in benchmarks, but I don't feel that it can keep up in games. If his main focus is gaming, I don't think it's the best option. The motherboard and cpu you're suggesting cost over $510 dollars. You could create a much faster gaming rig buying different parts. If his main focus is benchmarks or office applications, then it's worth a look. Keep in mind, you're also going to be paying more on your energy bill with the 920. It sounds trivial, but the last estimation I've seen shows it to be $15/year if idle, $55/year if full tilt.
Between the 3800+ and the 920:

25Watt full load stock difference

68 Watt full load OC difference

You could save those watts by getting more effiecient lighting or keeping your doors closed! LOL

On the SuperPi...

Probably more like 1.594 SECONDS... and I need to get a XP Pro reinstall because I have the same install from my old system. Anyways, lets see your SuperPi 1M?
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