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Originally Posted by Rud3Bwoy View Post
=/ as much as i hate to tell people what to do with there money,why not go with a sr2 rig?

you would of gotten much more performance out of a sr2 rig than a i7 980x at 5 ghz if u can go that high.

also the vertex drives you purchased why not the vertex 2?much better performance.

i really hope that the phase change was worth it because by the looks of it you really don't need the phase change for what you are doing at all basically just trying to a achieve a 5 ghz overclock on it from what i have read.

your using your rig for work purpose etc,not benching,you could of gotten a nice sr2 fully water cooled and be good to go =/
Many have stated this but he keeps on insisting that it's what his school "needs".
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post #592 of 1552
look at all the bs going around hes a 15/16 year old kid he doing his first build he spending his own money and your all critisizing him you should be ashamed off yourselves

he joined this site to get advice about the components he needed for this rig and as far as i can see he followed the advice given and now the advice you lot gave him your critising him for it

how much research did you lot go into when you built your first pc? how many times did you f*** up when building and testing it i know i made a few mistakes you should be congratulating him not critising him for gods sake he using phasechange on his first build how many off you have yoused phasechange?
    
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post #593 of 1552
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how many off you have yoused phasechange?
I have
post #594 of 1552
Okay, I have just spent hours reading through all 7 pages of this thread, and I'm in awe.

OP - I'd love to be in your shoes, because this is one epic build, especially for a first time. I wish you the best of luck with this and I look forward to seeing/hearing great things!
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post #595 of 1552
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Originally Posted by Rud3Bwoy View Post
=/ as much as i hate to tell people what to do with there money,why not go with a sr2 rig?

you would of gotten much more performance out of a sr2 rig than a i7 980x at 5 ghz if u can go that high.

also the vertex drives you purchased why not the vertex 2?much better performance.

i really hope that the phase change was worth it because by the looks of it you really don't need the phase change for what you are doing at all basically just trying to a achieve a 5 ghz overclock on it from what i have read.

your using your rig for work purpose etc,not benching,you could of gotten a nice sr2 fully water cooled and be good to go =/
I don't blame you for wondering why I choose these components, since it would normally seem logical, but I've done months of research and am still very confident that I choose the right parts.

1. Vertex 2 SSD's do not come in 30GB form and are much, much more expensive for only a 14% increase in performance.

2. About the SR-2 and dual xeon, contrary to popular belief, it will only give about a 5% increase in performance over an i7 980x rig if the xeons and the 980x are all at the same clock speed. OC'ing the 980x to 5ghz would even give reasonably better performance than 2 hexa-core xeons at 4.2GHz. This is due to the large latencies of dual processor intercommunication and RAM sharing. (and yes, I do plan to have the 980x at about 4.8Ghz for 24/7 use.

Here are some benchmark results from the video editor I use: http://ppbm5.com/Benchmark5.html

If you look at the specs on the top 2 computers, the first has dual xeon x5680's, the second an i7 980x, both at approximately the same clock speed, yet the dual xeon computer only yields about a 5.8% performance increase.

Again I really don't think that spending an extra $2200 for only a 5% increase in performance is worth it at all.

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Many have stated this but he keeps on insisting that it's what his school "needs".
I have NEVER said that throughout this whole thread. Go ahead, look. What I have stated is the reason why I am using a 980x over dual xeons multiple times! Please pay attention!

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Originally Posted by thanos999 View Post
look at all the bs going around hes a 15/16 year old kid he doing his first build he spending his own money and your all critisizing him you should be ashamed off yourselves

he joined this site to get advice about the components he needed for this rig and as far as i can see he followed the advice given and now the advice you lot gave him your critising him for it

how much research did you lot go into when you built your first pc? how many times did you f*** up when building and testing it i know i made a few mistakes you should be congratulating him not critising him for gods sake he using phasechange on his first build how many off you have yoused phasechange?
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Originally Posted by [Adz] View Post
Okay, I have just spent hours reading through all 7 pages of this thread, and I'm in awe.

OP - I'd love to be in your shoes, because this is one epic build, especially for a first time. I wish you the best of luck with this and I look forward to seeing/hearing great things!

Thanks guys, now if some of the others would just read my posts...

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Originally Posted by Greensystemsgo View Post
I didnt get any advice or make any mistakes. Not to hard to build a computer honestly. Common sense really. My gf even knows what to do by simply looking inside a hp rig.
I'm sorry but building a computer is not common sense. It's easy, but it's definitely not common sense. 10 bucks that your GF would start putting the computer together on carpet with socks on and then wonder why it doesn't boot.



BTW lots of pics of the computer are coming very soon.
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post #596 of 1552
Lol I did a co-op in grade ten (5 years ago) at a local computer store, didn't know what i was doing at all and they had me salvaging parts from old computers and putting together cheap rigs to sell. And i definitely didn't know what i was doing, I'm pretty sure i put at least 5 rigs together without any thermal paste, i remember putting a cpu in a mobo one time, i don't think it was the right socket, and it wouldn't post, instead smoke started to come from the HSF.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there Greensystemsgo.. Building a computer is not common sense I would love to see your girlfriend go to NCIX/ Newegg and put all the items in a cart that she would need for a rig, probably would end up with a 775 board and a Phenom II X4 or something. If everyone could do it, then there would be no Dell, HP, Compaq, or Local computer stores.

I personally have to give the OP props for taking on such a big project for his first rig, but i do have one piece of advice to pass on from my experience, NEVER force anything in or out of your motherboard, nothing should really take any amount of force to remove or put in, its usually a sign your doing something wrong. The only thing i really witnessed you do wrong on the stream was prying the Ram out (I'm not even sure you were doing that wrong, because i don't have the same board but from the reaction of the people in chat, and the amount of force it took to get them out I'm guessing you were doing something wrong), but as long as it's still working, who cares Other than that, its probably a good thing you took your time insulating the board. If i had a rig that expensive i wouldn't be taking any risk's ether.
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...NEVER force anything in or out of your motherboard, nothing should really take any amount of force to remove or put in, its usually a sign your doing something wrong...
I agree with you for the most part, but I thought that nothing should be forced before I built this computer, and were not able to close the cpu retention bracket.

The cpu retention plate/lever certainly did need a bit of force the first time to be closed. I was terrified something was wrong, but when reading about a bit I found out that it's normal.

Oh, and building a computer is absolutely not common sense. You first need some knowledge of how the computer works, the do's and dont's, and other stuff. You can not call it common sense when the majority of computer users doesn't even have any idea of what the insides of their computer even looks like, much less how things work!
I've seen people claiming to be experts at computer, yet failing to put in the ram properly, or plugging in the power connectors properly.

I find it rather impressing that he used phase for his first build even, as it's a bit more complicated then putting on a bit of thermal paste and a heatsink(thermal paste isn't even common sense!).
post #598 of 1552
Mad props to you OP.

Give your GF ten minutes on this forum and she'll learn the right stuff to get on newegg or at Microcenter or at Frys. I spent several months browsing the internet on how to do computer buliding. If you hae all the parts in front of your for a simple air cool build, and your in the right area with good conditions, It's sort of like putting together really REALLY expensive legos. For me it was, still it took me 3 hours to build this simple PC, but I took all the steps to make sure I didn't screw anything up.

Once again, Job well done OP
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If i was building that build I would build it even slower than him just because I'm kinda scared for dropping a thousand dollar processor so stop hating. There are other videos of people making rigs just go watch them if your going to complain.
@people taling about sr2's or w.e.....that question has come up so many times and he's answered it with valid reasons to why he bought what he bought
    
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I am severely disappointed at how little OP knows. Seeing him apply the knead eraser, or whatever he used, i forget, made my facepalm myself and just close the stream out of sympathy.
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I know right? It hurts just watching it. Also the speed he works at is horrible.

Next time listen to everyone in the chat. We are trying to help you and give you advice OP.
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No offense, but in reality, this is just a case of another n00b with money buying expensive things

No hate, just sympathy.
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HEY OP! When's the next live stream? Or update if we scared you off?
Can you believe these guys are actually members of OverClock.net? They sound more like members of RRR or Blazing PC. Your attitude is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the internet so don't bring that stench here. And take the bakers dozen of other dimwits with you.
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