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post #701 of 1552
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I will be putting it inside the case pretty soon, I've been stalling a bit since Intel is thinking of possibly sending me 2 ES X5650 Xeons to review (and keep), so if they do end up doing that I will probably switch to an SR-2 motherboard since it would be pretty much be the same price. Otherwise I would have 2 extra Engineering Sample Hexacore Xeons laying around and every I would see them they would wisper "build me..." .Basically I don't want to set up the whole computer in it's case only to find out a week later that I will have to take it apart completely and change out the motherboard.

Also I don't think the 24GB will hurt the OC too badly. Just put a fan on the Northbridge, raise the QPI, NB, and DRAM voltage a little, and turn down the memory multiplier and I'm pretty sure everything should be ok.
Okay, but you don't necessarily need to take it all apart if you do get the Xeons - just get another case and build a second computer. You're only going to use one for video editing and all the other stuff you do, right? So you could build a pretty hot second rig with the Xeons and sell it. I'm sure a dual ES chip system would fetch a very sweet price.
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post #702 of 1552
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I wrote the sticky on temperatures and voltages.
lol

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...long-term.html

Beat ya to it

Sort of...what I found is the CPU is more robust than the motherboard when it comes to overvolting on phase.
Edited by CyberDruid - 9/3/10 at 5:34am
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post #703 of 1552
I would be careful putting a heavy over-clock on a production machine. If this computer is being used for video editing and whatnot, your going to most likely have deadlines which are hard to meet if your CPU isnt working.

I don't know, if it was me I wouldn't risk exceeding Intel's spec's on their processors when I have a responsibility to meet a deadline with a project and my computer has to preform every time.

Thats another way the SR-2 sounds nice because you have a bit of redundancy, im no pro but I assume you can disable one proc and continue with the other like most server boards.

Dont get me wrong, it looks like a fun build and everything but it just seems like you are using this school camera assignment as an excuse to build a computer for omg***-benchmarks/epeen without having any real seriousness to do the video editing job whatever that may be. Im not saying theres anything wrong with building a computer for the hell of it but if your doing it to do a job, then reliability is what you should be aiming for, not pedal to the metal, bleeding edge clock's and performance. Just keep that in mind.
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post #704 of 1552
akrEAGLE you should be proud to have elicitted a post from the Octopus...he's only made a few in the past 2 years. And it's a good one. Says what need to be said.

I can understand wanting to play hard with the equipment, it's a helluva rig. But it sure isn't a work rig...more like a showcase for mismatched technology

Lose the SSDs. Get some 10K drives you can count on that will not degrade in a month. Lose the single socket mobo and build a proper workstation. If you like RAM pick a mobo that supports more of it and use ECC FB DIMMs.

Forget using 2 and 3 PSUs. Forget using Gaming cards to do a rendering cards job. Forget all the fun to look at stuff and just build a rig suited to the work.

You've had your fun...but that rig is not what you need to get work done.

Sorry to be such a buzz kill...but I gotta speak fromt he heart. It was a drag seeing all the whiners and nerd rage, but it seems that has died down. So now it's time for a reality check. The rig you built is not going to get the job done reliably.
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post #705 of 1552
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I would be careful putting a heavy over-clock on a production machine. If this computer is being used for video editing and whatnot, your going to most likely have deadlines which are hard to meet if your CPU isnt working.

I don't know, if it was me I wouldn't risk exceeding Intel's spec's on their processors when I have a responsibility to meet a deadline with a project and my computer has to preform every time.

Thats another way the SR-2 sounds nice because you have a bit of redundancy, im no pro but I assume you can disable one proc and continue with the other like most server boards.

Dont get me wrong, it looks like a fun build and everything but it just seems like you are using this school camera assignment as an excuse to build a computer for omg***-benchmarks/epeen without having any real seriousness to do the video editing job whatever that may be. Im not saying theres anything wrong with building a computer for the hell of it but if your doing it to do a job, then reliability is what you should be aiming for, not pedal to the metal, bleeding edge clock's and performance. Just keep that in mind.
The most sane and objective post I've read in this thread. +1
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post #706 of 1552
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Okay, but you don't necessarily need to take it all apart if you do get the Xeons - just get another case and build a second computer. You're only going to use one for video editing and all the other stuff you do, right? So you could build a pretty hot second rig with the Xeons and sell it. I'm sure a dual ES chip system would fetch a very sweet price.
If I am reading that right, you're implying he sell the ES chips?

Crazy build (I mean that in a good way)! Crazy thread! Crazy post and view count!
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If I am reading that right, you're implying he sell the ES chips?

Crazy build (I mean that in a good way)! Crazy thread! Crazy post and view count!
Unless he can get much better performance off them than the setup he's already got, then why not?
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post #708 of 1552
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Intel says that with vcore higher than 1.40v you can possibly degrade the chip. Intel also says that temperatures that are below 5C could also possibly hurt the CPU. It wasn't designed for the cold and the slightest thermal expansion or contraction can break the silicone and the transistors.

Source Page 23 and 76


I wrote the sticky on temperatures and voltages. Look it up and don't be sarcastic and nasty to a person who gave you good information on how not to break your $1000 CPU. Also notice I'm not the only one who said you might have a problem and need a backup.
Mommy also said not to talk to strangers online.

This is OVERCLOCK.NET, not i'mawussanddon'twanttodisobaywhatintel'sspecsheett oldus.net

I don't mean to offend you at all and I understand you are just trying to help but, although it is true that we have a few casual tier clockers among us, all in all, we are a performance oriented site. OP wants to push his chip a little, so what? Why don't you pop on over to XS and see what they do there chips. Your guide was very well written and very informative, but that is to the average user, as the OP CLEARLY demonstrates with the fact that he owns a Phase Change unit, he is not the average user. At most he is going to shave off a few years, maybe 4 or 5 off a chip that would otherwise live 10+ years. Now, I don't know about you but I'm willing to bet money that the OP will upgrade to a newer chip YEARS before this one that he is "abusing" is dead or heavily degraded.

Jus sayin
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post #709 of 1552
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I can understand wanting to play hard with the equipment, it's a helluva rig. But it sure isn't a work rig...more like a showcase for mismatched technology

Lose the SSDs. Get some 10K drives you can count on that will not degrade in a month. Lose the single socket mobo and build a proper workstation. If you like RAM pick a mobo that supports more of it and use ECC FB DIMMs.

Forget using 2 and 3 PSUs. Forget using Gaming cards to do a rendering cards job. Forget all the fun to look at stuff and just build a rig suited to the work.

You've had your fun...but that rig is not what you need to get work done.

Sorry to be such a buzz kill...but I gotta speak fromt he heart. It was a drag seeing all the whiners and nerd rage, but it seems that has died down. So now it's time for a reality check. The rig you built is not going to get the job done reliably.
+1
OP, you can't have an all-in-one workstation, gaming rig, and benching rig.
I have been watching this thread since it began, and I think that your expectations are somewhat ridiculous. There is no way you can have a reliable, long-term computer with a CPU overclocked to 5.0GHz+, and RAID 0 SSDs with no TRIM support.
Edited by thisischuck01 - 9/4/10 at 4:05pm
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We all need a little trim. It's those STDs I mean SSDs you gotta watch out for. Mine went from OMG so fast to stuttering in a month (pre-Win7).
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