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Hi Guys,

EDIT: for some reason Overclock.net is blocking the word e.x.t.r.e.m.e.p.c, so if you wanna visit the link you'll need to manually enter it.

I had a CPU flucuating problem, and the retailers couldn't fix it so they agreed to give me a refund of my who system. Now I'm in need of a computer fast, and I've got 2 alternatives:

E******** - A already compiled computer system from their site. http://www.e********.co.nz/product_...bba0af8639c728a

CPU: AMD Athlon 64bit 3500+ Socket 939
Memory: Kingston 1GB RAM DDR400 (512MB PC3200 DDR400 RAMX2)
HDD: Seagate 200GB SATAII 7200RPM 8MB Hard Disk
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256bit DDR3 16X PCI-Express
Optical drive: 16X +/-/R/RW Double Layer DVD Writer
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8NSLI AMD motherboard for Athlon64/ 64 FX processor
Case: 450W PSU ATX Black Case

I can change the case to a Thermaltake Soprano w/ 430W PSU (PLEASE DON'T SHOOT) cause i bet it'll be more reliable than the psu they've given. If I pick each component again, it'll be more expensive for some reason, so I cannot repick.

Now knowing a bit of computers and hardware, so I've got another one that I've selected myself

PCTronix - All Parts from here.

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MB: DFI Infinity SLI
MEM: PQI Turbo Dual Channel 1GB Kit CAS 2.5
HDD: Seagate 200GB SATA
GFX: Gigabyte 7600GT
Optical: LG 4167B
Case: NZXT Trinity Case
PSU: Enermax 485W Noisetaker P-Series

Strong CPU and Mobo and PSU means I wil be able to oc to 2.6 at least, maybe 2.7 if temps are good. Prob can get a 10-20% oc on the vid card.

Now, i know that some of the parts that E******** has stated may be "cheap", thus hindering any oc i might want (maybe a small one with a mem divider) but the 7900GT is very, and i mean very tempting. The parts i've chosen in PCTronix seem very stable, and i know will sure oc well. Now i dunno what i should do. Any suggestions? Both systems are around the same price. I can only afford a maximum of NZD$1700. First System weighs more atm, cause the 7900GT could give maybe double more performance than the 2nd system, but with the second I'll be reassured with stability and an oc may bridge the gap, but i know i won't be seeing miracles, maybe 1000-3000 3DMarks (03) depending on how much oc.

Thanks,
Prelithe
My System
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CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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post #2 of 7
If they cost the same the go with the first one and change out anything that seems unreliable. What is E********* anyway. lol
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8320e Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Sapphire R9 380 4GB 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 240GB SSD HGST 4TB Storage DVD-RW Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 AOC 27" 1080p Corsair CX750m Corsair 200R 
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AMD FX-8320e Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Sapphire R9 380 4GB 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 240GB SSD HGST 4TB Storage DVD-RW Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 AOC 27" 1080p Corsair CX750m Corsair 200R 
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Asus Xonar DS 
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post #3 of 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retrospekt
If they cost the same the go with the first one and change out anything that seems unreliable. What is E********* anyway. lol
Thats the problem. I'm very restricted in Cash atm. The only thing i can do (for the first system) is swap the case+PSU for a more reliable one, and with that the PSU ain't too flash. But still that increases stability by at least double I believe, but not reliable enough for any oc. Oh read my edited post above, overclock.net blocks the weirdest words :/
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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post #4 of 7
Well how much money do you have after buying that first system? Well work sumtin out.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8320e Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Sapphire R9 380 4GB 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 240GB SSD HGST 4TB Storage DVD-RW Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 AOC 27" 1080p Corsair CX750m Corsair 200R 
Audio
Asus Xonar DS 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8320e Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P Sapphire R9 380 4GB 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Intel 240GB SSD HGST 4TB Storage DVD-RW Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Windows 7 x64 AOC 27" 1080p Corsair CX750m Corsair 200R 
Audio
Asus Xonar DS 
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post #5 of 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prelithe

CPU: AMD Athlon 64bit 3500+ Socket 939
Memory: Kingston 1GB RAM DDR400 (512MB PC3200 DDR400 RAMX2)
HDD: Seagate 200GB SATAII 7200RPM 8MB Hard Disk
Graphics: Nvidia Geforce 7900GT 256MB 256bit DDR3 16X PCI-Express
Optical drive: 16X +/-/R/RW Double Layer DVD Writer
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8NSLI AMD motherboard for Athlon64/ 64 FX processor
Case: 450W PSU ATX Black Case
If you game, you need to be here... period. The dif between the 7900 and 7600 will NOT be equal to the small amount of benchmark you HOPE to get on 3dMark

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prelithe
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MB: DFI Infinity SLI
MEM: PQI Turbo Dual Channel 1GB Kit CAS 2.5
HDD: Seagate 200GB SATA
GFX: Gigabyte 7600GT
Optical: LG 4167B
Case: NZXT Trinity Case
PSU: Enermax 485W Noisetaker P-Series
If you do not game, it would seem to matter not.
post #6 of 7
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OK, i'm not paying for this system, my dad is and i don't have alot of money atm (prob NZD$120 spare) so that'll buy squat. My dad doesn't trust me when it comes to the comp so he doesn't want me fiddling and swapping the components so i'm stuffed there.

I'm a huge gamer. thats why the 7900gt jumped out at me. I'm sure the case/psu change will be ample enough for stability so i sohuld just gofor the first system right? Anyone with experience care to tell me the difference between a 7900gt and 7600gt in 3dmark form and fps?
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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My System
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CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
3700+ San Deigo Asus A8N-SLI Microsoft XP Pro Philips 170B 17" 12x10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Multimedia Keyboard Tt 430W Thermaltake Swing Black MS Wheel Mouse Optical 
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post #7 of 7
The difference is huge between the 7900 and 7600. Literally no comparison if you want it for gaming than most certainly get the first system it will allow you to play pretty much all games out right now at max settings depending on resolution. Whereas the 7600gt will play all modern games at high to medium settings without Antialiasing or Antistropic filtering for the most demanding.
Opulentia
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k Asus p8z68 M Pro GTX 670 FTW 4gb 2x4gb DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
256gb Samsung 850 Pro 1xDVDRW 1xDVD Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo with additional fan  Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Runco 947 via component to DVI-I converter at 1... Logitech K360 Sunbeam Nuo Coolermaster HAF 932 
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Logitech Performance MX Black Onkyo SR-508 reciever Energy RC-70 towers 
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i5 2500k Asus p8z68 M Pro GTX 670 FTW 4gb 2x4gb DDR3 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
256gb Samsung 850 Pro 1xDVDRW 1xDVD Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo with additional fan  Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Runco 947 via component to DVI-I converter at 1... Logitech K360 Sunbeam Nuo Coolermaster HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech Performance MX Black Onkyo SR-508 reciever Energy RC-70 towers 
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