Originally Posted by begjr2;13302489
IMO its really hard to compare LD, DD and MM cases .
1st off when ur talking about prices LD cases are extremely way more than a MM case $200+. Now granted im talking about a basic Ascension but it has the same features as a LD case would have. now since you were talking about the over whelming price of the MM case then it kind of shoots the LD case out the window. As for design and looks of the 2 cases its all in the eye of the beholder so i tend to never argue about which case looks better. Now i wont argue the fact that that the LD case has better cable mangement cause as we all know MM sucks in this department. Now if u look at the other spectrum of these 2 cases the LD is basically a bigger version of a pinicle26 with a standard MM case design in a sense that there is a top and bottom chamber to house components IE: psu rads etc. Now if ur going to compare the LD to any MM case it would have to be vs a pinnicle and in that case for ur money a pinnicle would be a steal $269 vs $599 is a no brainer.
2nd ive never really been a fan of DD cause its a fully acrylic case. Now dont get me wrong i have seen some pretty nice looking modded one but they just arent for me. as for price comparision there usually around the same price. so yet again its another which case u think looks good. now if u plan on putting a butt load of rads and so forth then the DD just cant handle but luike mentioned before u really only need so much RAD before it becomes a waste.
Now i know im extremly partcial to MM cause obviously i own one but ive also owned a DD case and the comparisions basically stop at the door when it comes to these 2 cases. Im not going to proceed on a bashing on DD cases so ill leave it like that. AS for Case Labs well its basically a MM UFO case with cheap Wire management slots and thats it really. yes its a little thicker but unless u plan on dropping ur comp from a building its not really going to matter. and if anyone really is that worried about there componentes then go build a case out of kevlar.
Now im not aplying at all that bigger is better but its always better to have more than not enough. And if this statement wasent tru then u would never see quad 580's cf 6990 and so forth. what i will say that yes MM cases are expensive but only if u want them to powder coat ur comp get special holes in ur windows etc. etc. etc but u name one case that comes from a factory that already has these things because if there was one we would be buying them and not modding our current cases. If there was one u will be paying a arm and a leg for it.
Ok couple of things.
1.)Comparing the LD to the Pinnacle 24 must be a joke:doh:
The pinnacle can only hold a normal 360 and a slim on in the top because of hte psu placement.
Further more MM has saved a substancial amount of money considering the production values and material of the Pinnacle.
It is a low range case for beginners and people who don´t wanna spend money for a serious case but still be able to proud themselves to own a MM.
2.)I am not sure if you read through Stallions and my posts but the normal Ascension was never discussed.
My whole point of saying that MM is being surpressed more and more by LD and DD was based on the Extended Ascension.
Now I am not sure if you have owned or seen an Extended Ascension but trust me your statement "better more than not enough" does not apply here.
Not only in material, craftship,modelling and production values is the Ascension even remotely comparable to the LD also in water cooling ability the Ascension is far behind in space,capability and efficiency.
The big advantage of the Little Devil is the bottom compartment which actively enables the user to push cold ambient air and dispose it to the other side if you have one rad and the back and front if you have 2x480´s down there, at the same time does the exhaust air neither effect the other components nor create any space issues for further expansions.
That looks a little bit different with the Ascension:
Here you can see the hot exhaust air is spread all over the components and the case interior which will lead to vast tempreture rise and I don´t even wanna start if the case is closed.
Additionally you can see how the complete lack of cable management can contribute to the bad airflow and exhaust heat disposal which all added up lead to extreme heat clustering ,tempreture rise and ultimately less or unefficient radiator cooling which negates the effect of the watercooling by at least 40%.
But the Ascension wasn´t even an issue.
Considering that the Extended Ascension is the flagship of MM you can imply that the production values are vastly better than of its predeccessors.
Still absolutely no match for the LD.
Spacewise and radiator capable wise the Extended Ascension has the win no questions asked.
But you have to ask yourself do you really need it?
If you take a guy like Stallion with Tri 480 big CPU OC SR2(I believe) then 20 harddrives 2x 1080 rad + 2x360 rad and on and on of course I will recommend the Extended but watercooling isn´t that blunt anymore.
It has become more sophisticated and elegant.
And like I said people have become more body concsious of their cases and esthethically orientated.
And in my oppinion the Extended´s purpose isn´t really looking graceful and elegant but rather then being there to do the most extreme job possible.
And most people don´t want that anymore.
They concentrate on production values , good craftmanship and a nice design + silhouette.
But of course you are right looks are limited to the preferences of the beholder that is correct.
But if you consider the amount of people switching from MM to LD or DD you might wanna reconsider that statement:)
DD and LD are taking the lead in my oppinion.