Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Guild Wars 2 Discussion, Video & Screenshot Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] Guild Wars 2 Discussion, Video & Screenshot Thread - Page 230

post #2291 of 10385
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackops_2 View Post

Someone mentioned setting up skills for each weapon like the utility skill set, maybe with more guidelines it could work. I'm hoping they take a look at it.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/suggestions/MORE-weapons-skills/page/1

It becomes too hard to balance and it makes warrior boring by comparison and also weapons wont mean much apart from looks.
I really like the way it is now, there are PvP, PvE, solo and group weapons, weapons for AoE, weapons for bosses, ranged and melee.

I don't think I understand your reasoning here. I think that the way skills used to be is superior to how they are making them now; the more skills to choose from, the more interesting the toon. For instance in GW1 there were 20 Axe skills to choose from, (granted a few were renamed duplicates); whereas in GW2 there are 4 for Primary Hand and 2 for Offhand. Even if you consider that one of the Primary Hand skills has 3 "Faces", that's still only 8 Axe skills.

Okay, so they also added Class specific skills for the Axe. Now the Ranger can have 5 total specific skills and the Necro can have 3. I am not convinced that this was a good trade off for killing multi-classing either.

I feel like GW2 is a completely different game from GW1, not a natural evolution of an existing franchise. I think that the Skill and Class system in GW1 was superior to that of GW2. It allowed for such an incredible amount of possible blendings. GW2, on the other hand is going to rely on Combos, apparently.

Shoot, I am not, after this weekend and my experiences prior to it, convinced that the Monk class shouldn't be brought back. I certainly missed having prots and heals thrown at me when hacking into a mob as a Warrior. I also felt like I spent a lot of time reviving other players, more time than it would have taken to just cast a Res spell. I didn't get a chance to be around or play a higher level Guardian, though. Maybe that would have made a difference.

Don't misread me. I had a great time and look forward to doing so for many, many hours to come. However, I am having a hard time accepting that GW2 IS NOT GW1. It's going to take a very different approach as a gamer for many reasons. My biggest misgiving aforementioned, but slightly behind it is the Persistent Instance. Someone in an earlier post mentioned how it felt like Rift... I agree. It was crazy seeing 20+ people all running after the same objectives. In the Orchard, when the Huge Orchard Spider spawned, it was an indescribable conflagration of colors and noises. Most of the time I couldn't tell what was happening, but I kept shooting anyway.

On the other hand, there were times, when I was alone and getting ripped up, that a player or group of players would happen my way and help me survive. That was cool.thumb.gif

I had a hard time adjusting to not having a party with me when I undertook some of the harder instances. I am thinking, specifically, of the Ormi quest. That was tough. I admit, though that when I finally got through it, I did feel a big sense of accomplishment; something like Vanquishing some of the harder areas in GW1. biggrin.gif


In sum: I had a great time and look forward to more. I am a human and as such will adapt to the new, while lamenting the old.

oh,

And I am happy to hear what you said, FLClimax:
Quote:
izzy has actually said many times now that it's easier for them(nearly instant) to add or tweak skills and see how they'll work in game. it's actually an easier job overall to balance this game vs the first one, due to improved dev tools.
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2292 of 10385
Thread Starter 
the warrior was not boring, it's the only class i've played extensively from trades shows till now. it depends on your preference, and also the whole melee is bad thing....been mace/shield the whole time except two times(but switched back mid combat). i was "tanking" the svanir champion and didn't go down at all. of course i am not the type to throw my hands up and cry on the first failure, and i do have experience with the class already.

also the black moas gave a tell before they did their string grab thingy(which they chained with a hard AOE). when they look like they're taking a deep breath that's when you roll or put up shield block. i have a feeling that people are still watching the skill bar and not the actual enemy and just pressing 12345 pretending there's a rotation.
post #2293 of 10385
I was happy to see that as well, Climax. I noticed that most of the mobs had some sort of tell and that if you were alert to it you could dodge or block.

I had a great time as a Warrior duel wielding swords and using the greatsword. I loved the animation that accompanied Hundred Blades.
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2294 of 10385
What are the warrior's mace and board skills? The guardian's were much less appealing after I rolled a charr warrior with a greatsword. Granted, the warrior greatsword made it a lot harder to live through anything especially solo.
Jane
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 Zotac H55ITX-C-E Sapphire 7850 4GB Corsair XMS 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB Antec 620 Windows 7 Samsung BX2331 23" LED 
PowerCaseAudio
Silverstone 45SF 450W Silverstone SG05 Swan M10 
  hide details  
Reply
Jane
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 Zotac H55ITX-C-E Sapphire 7850 4GB Corsair XMS 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB Antec 620 Windows 7 Samsung BX2331 23" LED 
PowerCaseAudio
Silverstone 45SF 450W Silverstone SG05 Swan M10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2295 of 10385
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by a pet rock View Post

What are the warrior's mace and board skills? The guardian's were much less appealing after I rolled a charr warrior with a greatsword. Granted, the warrior greatsword made it a lot harder to live through anything especially solo.

this is the build i went with: http://www.gw2builds.org/view/101013/meat_shield

Smash > Bash > Pulverize chain does good damage to account for the slower attack speed. i upgraded my weapon alot which helped. i generally save Counter Blow for when my endurance is low and i can't side step an attack. Pommel Bash is always used to stop the big attacks that telegraph(for multiple baddies with big swings Skull Crack on the other foe), it's also useful for stopping anything in its tracks for a second which is good to control enemies who flee and bring adds. Shield Bash is generally used after dodging to get me back in melee range. it's also good for stunning the caster standing in the mid or back line in a fight. only thing about that is you have to really know the distance of this move perfectly. since i was not targeting, the shield will not stun an enemy unless you hit them at the end of your dash. over shoot or fall short and it's a wasted skill. Shield Stance of course is the life saver. when i want the bastard on me and me only but i want to live this is the go to skill. i get off as much of the chain attack as i can before the boom is lowered and besically stand right up on the mob and block what is otherwise an instant kill. shield block is also useful for casters and ranged multiple attackers. you can move while blocking and it works from all sides.

for enemies like the ettins or those black moa, i save the Skull Crack(Pommel Bash if my adrenaline is too low) for their AOE strikes, because there's no sense in me living if all my buddies get killed.

for utility, i just use Banner of Defense to help with general survivability, Dolyak Signet for damage reduction, and Signet of Stamina to allow more frequent dodging. my heal is Healing Signet for the passive regen. typically i am good at avoiding damage and while i am blocking, dazing or stunning my health creeps back up.


EDIT: Maces and Hammers will hit basically everything in front of you except for their more directed attacks. skull crack is a great burst skill for control. i also did a bit of min/maxing. dolyak+healing signet work great together, upgraded my gear often and used toughness/vitality upgrade components.
Edited by FLCLimax - 4/30/12 at 6:26pm
post #2296 of 10385
That's definitely a lot more tanky than the guardian's mace+board. A whole ton of stuns which I think in this game work out better than most buffs. With the guardian, it's minor heals and defense buffs which makes it much more support-oriented. What I ended up doing with my charr warrior was waiting for the mob to run in and when they got in a line in a hallway I'd throw the greatsword for line damage. If they were out in a more open area where I had an easier escape route I would whirlwind straight through the mob and run back to the casters. I could handle single mobs with the chain easily, and if there were groups sitting still I could use that hundred blades thing and mop up at least half their hit points of everything in the group. The important thing was that I had almost no defensive capabilities. It made the personal story quests much more difficult, but dynamic events were hilariously awesome. "Oh, what's that? There's a huge mob coming this way in a really small area? Oh, it's like Christmas all over again!"

Also bear in mind I did five characters ranging from levels 6-15. I didn't come close to unlocking all the weapon skills (especially on ele). I only did PvE which means I only had two utility skills on my one highest level character. I was much more interested in advancing five different personal stories and seeing the contrasts between them. For instance, with my charr the Iron Legion and Blood Legion personal stories diverged almost immediately in very interesting ways.
Jane
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 Zotac H55ITX-C-E Sapphire 7850 4GB Corsair XMS 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB Antec 620 Windows 7 Samsung BX2331 23" LED 
PowerCaseAudio
Silverstone 45SF 450W Silverstone SG05 Swan M10 
  hide details  
Reply
Jane
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 Zotac H55ITX-C-E Sapphire 7850 4GB Corsair XMS 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung F3 1TB Antec 620 Windows 7 Samsung BX2331 23" LED 
PowerCaseAudio
Silverstone 45SF 450W Silverstone SG05 Swan M10 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2297 of 10385
I spent a lot of time as an ele primarily doing pvp. I realized when I started that due to having 20 skills the ceiling would be quite high. I was right. I tried using the prebuilt ele pvp and man did I get trashed. Swapping was clunky and slow.

Than I took apart the traits and rebuilt from the ground up. That is when ele got interesting. That is also when I started to get 6k crits, granted I died a lot too, but I was almost always in the top 3.

I found my dabbling as a guardian in pvp felt like a complete waste of time, I couldn't find any build that I found to be effective and/or enjoyable.


Image is of a game where i just sat in a catapult. Which was actually pretty fun. 338
See Pee Yoo
(17 items)
 
Lian Mi
(12 items)
 
Craptop
(5 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k asrock extreme4 980ti corsair vengeance  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m3 seagate green lg dvdrw Noctua D14 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
win 7 64bit 2 x 1920 x 1080p (ASUS and LG) xl2420te ocz zx 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
haf bx g600 / / Roccat Savu Puretrak Talent Soundblaster Z 
Audio
sennheiser hd558 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
celereon g1610 g1 sniper m3 parema seagate barracuda 
Optical DriveOSMonitorPower
dvdrw windows vista vizio 3d tv rosewill green 530 
CaseMouse
lian li pc v354b logitech g300 
CPUGraphicsHard DriveOS
4810MQ GTX 870M samsung evo  Windows 8.1 
Other
Sager 8728 
  hide details  
Reply
See Pee Yoo
(17 items)
 
Lian Mi
(12 items)
 
Craptop
(5 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k asrock extreme4 980ti corsair vengeance  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial m3 seagate green lg dvdrw Noctua D14 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
win 7 64bit 2 x 1920 x 1080p (ASUS and LG) xl2420te ocz zx 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
haf bx g600 / / Roccat Savu Puretrak Talent Soundblaster Z 
Audio
sennheiser hd558 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
celereon g1610 g1 sniper m3 parema seagate barracuda 
Optical DriveOSMonitorPower
dvdrw windows vista vizio 3d tv rosewill green 530 
CaseMouse
lian li pc v354b logitech g300 
CPUGraphicsHard DriveOS
4810MQ GTX 870M samsung evo  Windows 8.1 
Other
Sager 8728 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2298 of 10385
Thread Starter 
how's this for gear variety?


post #2299 of 10385
Quote:
Originally Posted by Projector View Post

Been hearing alot of disapointment from people that were in the beta, graphically and game play wise. What do you all think, does it live up to your expectations. Are you all enjoying it?

Refer to the last 50+ pages and see all the positive comments.
Bankai!
(17 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i5 2500k Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 EVGA GTX 760 4gb EVGA GTX 760 4gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... Western Digital 500gb RE Samsung 830 128gb SSD ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SA... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Hyper 212 Air Cooler Win7 Home Premium 64bit X-Star 2560x1440 Razer Black Widow 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Logitech G400 Black Cataclysm Mousepad 
Audio
Stock on Asrock for now. 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz ASUS M4A78 Plus BFG 260 OC G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RP Lite-on DVD 22x Windows 7 64bit HP 16:9 20" Widescreen 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Dell throw away RAIDMAX QUANTUM RX-700 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V S RAIDMAX Scorpio ATX-868WBP Logitech G5 
Mouse Pad
The Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
Bankai!
(17 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i5 2500k Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 EVGA GTX 760 4gb EVGA GTX 760 4gb 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin ... Western Digital 500gb RE Samsung 830 128gb SSD ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SA... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Hyper 212 Air Cooler Win7 Home Premium 64bit X-Star 2560x1440 Razer Black Widow 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Logitech G400 Black Cataclysm Mousepad 
Audio
Stock on Asrock for now. 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz ASUS M4A78 Plus BFG 260 OC G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RP Lite-on DVD 22x Windows 7 64bit HP 16:9 20" Widescreen 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Dell throw away RAIDMAX QUANTUM RX-700 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V S RAIDMAX Scorpio ATX-868WBP Logitech G5 
Mouse Pad
The Desk 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2300 of 10385
Short answer is yes. Read my post (about 5 posts earlier) for a more complete idea of how I feel.

Yes, I had a great time and look forward to more.

Graphics were better than one would expect for a Beta. There is still work to be done, though. But all in all I thought it was very well put together.
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
Pro Tem
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i5 25oo MSI P67A-GD65 B3 MSi GTX56oTX-Ti Asus Direct CUii GTX56o Ti 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB C3oo 128GB / 2x5ooGB WDGreen / 1.5TB SG LG DvD Burner Hyper 212+ 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 HP 64 AcerH233H / Acer X2o3H Antec 75oW Raidmax Smilodon Extreme fan mod 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: PC Gaming
Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Guild Wars 2 Discussion, Video & Screenshot Thread