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For those of you who don't know about them yet, try out these new developer drivers if you're running Nvidia.

I've only been using them for about an hour, but so far there seem to be marked improvements in frame rate and general smoothness. The turn lag issues is very minimal now, almost nonexistent, and I also haven't encountered the transparent texture thing. Looks like all the "their engine isn't optimized" arguments might have just been driver issues. It's still a bit early to tell, cause like I said I haven't been using them that long, but what I have seen seems very promising.

Nvidia - 306.63 Dev Drivers

edit: I haven't seen such a difference in just a driver change before. Unless I run into some weird issue that I haven't encountered yet, the difference is night and day. Buttery smooth.

I do still get a little turn lag, but it's only right after I tab out and then back in or if I load a new zone. It's extremely minimal otherwise.
Edited by Kaldari - 9/30/12 at 4:21pm
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Well, I got the game. Not sure I like it much. I only paid $35, luckily. I'm just not really understand what to do or anything like that. It doesn't tell you much. I've played many MMO's, and this is the first time I have no idea what abilities to use at the right moments. I didn't even know I could roll backwards for 3 days.

That's because It doesn't matter what skills you use biggrin.gif Just faceroll your way to victory on every mob thumb.gif

And no im not joking lol
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In essence, every class in this game is a self-healing DPS class. Holy trinity (Healing, DPS, Tank) is a far better setup in virtually every regard. You don't even have to organize anything in GW2 nor talk to anyone. It's like the McDonald's of MMORPG's.

I don't know if I should reply this to this, but here we go:

Every class is a self-healing DPS class. Each of them also provides an important difference in what they have available as they do their DPS. Ele's have tons of combo fields, thieves have access to lots of teleports, warriors have a lot of stuns and knockdowns, etc. The diversity isn't in the ability to deal damage, it's the control that comes with it. And that is actually important now since you can't just use gearscore and DPS/heal charts to big the most important players. Worrying about those roles in a game that does away with them is like trying to play medic in BF3 to be a tank, then complaining you can't take enough hits. That's not how it works.

You have not said anything that makes an argument for the holy trinity being better. Why would I want to stand around doing effectively nothing in a trinity game? Tank spams threat, DPS spams rotation, heal clicks the lowest health bars. Not to mention the fact that we have played this setup in every single MMO release for the past 10 years with no major changes. The loading screen of the very first zone doesn't even finish before I know exactly what my class will be doing for the next 10000 hours while I grind for a 1% drop rate in an instance I can only run once a week for $15 a month because ITS ENDGAME LOL YOU SHOULD BE LOVING THIS! ENDGAMEENDGAMERAIDSRAIDS! And then an expansion comes out that negates everything that happened previously. Only $30 more dollars for more stats. Woo.

MMO's are the only genre that needs for FORCEFEED team composition down your throat so hard that you can't play without it. Very few RPG's make content impossible with out class roles. Almost no shooters make class roles necessary. How about hack and slash? Platformers? Fighters? Side scrollers? Adventure? Rhythm games? Party games? Nope. All soft roles, if they have roles at all. And even though you play them with your friends, you can still figure it out with being spoonfed "organization" by making every one doing only one thing that is so stupidly obvious a bunch of clueless housewives can do it.

Now, as for talking and organizing, how do trinity games encourage that? You can use dungeon finder and be in a group to get through almost everything without saying a word. Every knows their role before the game starts. The roles are so important that the game literally cannot put you into a group unless you meet the exact 1T 1H 3DPS setup and it happens automatically. How is that interesting teamwork? Why talk or organize at all, when so much is just cookie cutter roles?

If GW2 is McDonalds, than other MMO's are all like different brands of boxed macaroni and cheese. You guys are worried about who makes the best noodles, butter, and cheese packet, WITH NO OTHER INGREDIENTS ALLOWED. Us Mcdonalds people are worried about milkshakes, orange juice, burgers, chicken fingers, salads, soda, apple pies, french fries, and onion rings. At the end of the day they might all be ****ty fast food, but I'm SO SICK OF EATING MAC AND CHEESE FOR 10 YEARS. I know making mac and cheese gives you the illusion of being the super special chef who understands their ingredients, but really, you never had a choice to begin with since it only works if you do it like the box says. I love mac and cheese, but I sure as hell don't complain when I eat something that just isn't mac and cheese.
    
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I don't know if I should reply this to this, but here we go:
Every class is a self-healing DPS class. Each of them also provides an important difference in what they have available as they do their DPS. Ele's have tons of combo fields, thieves have access to lots of teleports, warriors have a lot of stuns and knockdowns, etc. The diversity isn't in the ability to deal damage, it's the control that comes with it. And that is actually important now since you can't just use gearscore and DPS/heal charts to big the most important players. Worrying about those roles in a game that does away with them is like trying to play medic in BF3 to be a tank, then complaining you can't take enough hits. That's not how it works.
You have not said anything that makes an argument for the holy trinity being better. Why would I want to stand around doing effectively nothing in a trinity game? Tank spams threat, DPS spams rotation, heal clicks the lowest health bars. Not to mention the fact that we have played this setup in every single MMO release for the past 10 years with no major changes. The loading screen of the very first zone doesn't even finish before I know exactly what my class will be doing for the next 10000 hours while I grind for a 1% drop rate in an instance I can only run once a week for $15 a month because ITS ENDGAME LOL YOU SHOULD BE LOVING THIS! ENDGAMEENDGAMERAIDSRAIDS! And then an expansion comes out that negates everything that happened previously. Only $30 more dollars for more stats. Woo.
MMO's are the only genre that needs for FORCEFEED team composition down your throat so hard that you can't play without it. Very few RPG's make content impossible with out class roles. Almost no shooters make class roles necessary. How about hack and slash? Platformers? Fighters? Side scrollers? Adventure? Rhythm games? Party games? Nope. All soft roles, if they have roles at all. And even though you play them with your friends, you can still figure it out with being spoonfed "organization" by making every one doing only one thing that is so stupidly obvious a bunch of clueless housewives can do it.
Now, as for talking and organizing, how do trinity games encourage that? You can use dungeon finder and be in a group to get through almost everything without saying a word. Every knows their role before the game starts. The roles are so important that the game literally cannot put you into a group unless you meet the exact 1T 1H 3DPS setup and it happens automatically. How is that interesting teamwork? Why talk or organize at all, when so much is just cookie cutter roles?
If GW2 is McDonalds, than other MMO's are all like different brands of boxed macaroni and cheese. You guys are worried about who makes the best noodles, butter, and cheese packet, WITH NO OTHER INGREDIENTS ALLOWED. Us Mcdonalds people are worried about milkshakes, orange juice, burgers, chicken fingers, salads, soda, apple pies, french fries, and onion rings. At the end of the day they might all be ****ty fast food, but I'm SO SICK OF EATING MAC AND CHEESE FOR 10 YEARS. I know making mac and cheese gives you the illusion of being the super special chef who understands their ingredients, but really, you never had a choice to begin with since it only works if you do it like the box says. I love mac and cheese, but I sure as hell don't complain when I eat something that just isn't mac and cheese.

This post has succeeded in making me want boxed Macaroni and cheese. Epic win sir.
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MMOs are designed around teamwork. Most (I want to say all but there's probably one or two that don't) games that are designed around teamwork do have class roles, because teams work better with defined roles, and not just in games, but in real life. Can you name some job sites where people do everything and nobody has a defined role? I can't think of any.

I think your McDonalds/Mac and cheese analogy is a bit off. I think it's more like... GW2 is plain oatmeal, and other MMOs are oatmeal with different flavors. At the base, it's all the same thing. One's just a bland paste with no defining qualities. GW2 feels like a castrated MMO to me. It still feels like an MMO, but it's missing the qualities that make an MMO great (the teamwork, social aspect, and feeling of progression).
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For those of you who don't know about them yet, try out these new developer drivers if you're running Nvidia.
I've only been using them for about an hour, but so far there seem to be marked improvements in frame rate and general smoothness. The turn lag issues is very minimal now, almost nonexistent, and I also haven't encountered the transparent texture thing. Looks like all the "their engine isn't optimized" arguments might have just been driver issues. It's still a bit early to tell, cause like I said I haven't been using them that long, but what I have seen seems very promising.
Nvidia - 306.63 Dev Drivers
edit: I haven't seen such a difference in just a driver change before. Unless I run into some weird issue that I haven't encountered yet, the difference is night and day. Buttery smooth.
I do still get a little turn lag, but it's only right after I tab out and then back in or if I load a new zone. It's extremely minimal otherwise.

My sig rig just went from averaging 30-40FPS sans SS to 55-60 FPS with SS. (1280x1024) Finally I can play the game as it was meant to be played. I actually notice the SS vs Native now. Also, my GPU is finally getting a workout from something other than Folding. Though I did find that setting the refresh rate higher did allow me to run at 70FPS but this was far less consistent and ended up with going from 25-74-45 all the time and just wasn't acceptable. But a 40min with averaging out at 55 is perfectly what my eyes like to see!

Now if only I didn't have mid-terms coming up soon mad.gif
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I like it locked at 30 fps.
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I like it locked at 30 fps.

ew.. surely you're not serious.
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Well I got to lvl 16 on my warrior and found myself quite bored - I wasnt expecting that as warrior was my main character in GW1. Currently running a Charr Engineer at lvl 7 which im enjoying quite a lot.
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