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And just like that, my hopes are dashed. Whhhhyyyyyy can't they fix this already?! The new drivers are so much better, but I can't stand textures popping to transparent like that. sad-smiley-002.gif
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Holy crap! I remembered someone saying it was because they added ambient occlusion a few weeks ago, but I thought that this was strictly something to do with the game. I didn't realize you could just turn it off in the driver settings! I've been turning it on by habit after each driver install because I like everything to look as good as possible, but I haven't been making the connection until now! It's actually off by default. I feel dumb now. -.-
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I get to enjoy the smoothness of the new drivers without any problems now! This is a good day.

That is a good point, there is often a desire (especially amongst a group like OCN gamers) to crank up the eye candy to the maximum for epeen/wow-factorage - losing sight of the fact that many of those elements are not beneficial to the actual playability of a game. I'm definitely guilty of that on more than one occasion, and it's even more applicable to a game like GW2 that is freakin' beeyooteefull biggrin.gif Although it's hard not to get pissed when you're enjoying something and suddenly you're looking at an error message, or a stuck event, or an army of bots or whatever - we also have to realize (myself included) that it's not ANet's desire for any of that to happen. They as a developer are walking a very fine line between angering their customers by releasing a buggy game... and being a John Romero and releasing a game that's 'done' but is so out of date by the time they start selling it that no one cares about it any longer.

Would I have liked GW2 to have started out as good as GW1 is now? Damn straight! Is that likely or even possible given the scope of the game and the pressure they were under to actually get something out the door? Hardly. So while it is frustrating, and we are all emotional about it to one extent or another (positively or negatively) - the bottom line is that they are just people and they are trying. The one thing that I can definitely say sets ANet apart in a huge way is that they have (both now and in the past with GW1) continued to improve both amount and quality of content despite not receiving a monthly subscription fee. If we were talking about my CC getting dinged for $15-20/month while I can't even finish a map because it doesn't work... I'd be demanding my money back and not returning.

Since I don't have to pay any more (at least until there is a large expansion in a year or two) the only thing to be upset about is how badly I want it to work better than it does... but that's really only a result of how good the aspects of the game that do work properly are... they make me want even more all the time. Based on past experience, I will undoubtedly get that someday. I for one will make every effort to remain constructive and objective in any future criticism of this game - after all, even as it currently exists... it's way more entertaining than anything I've ever developed - by a mile. thumb.gif

And curse you for that youtube link... you just cost me an hour of productive time watching Tenacious D videos thanks to the side bar links... mad.gif

I can agree with some of this and only some because my experience varied. My biggest gripe thus far is the camera. On certain quests it will fight me on where I want my view. The snap back feature annoys me to no end. I'm old school. I know how to reset my camera.

The minimap not showing where I've been on some maps is also annoying as well as some skill point areas not working. As for bots, I've run into very few. The two back to back events in Straights of Devastation and the bridge in I believe Harathi Highlands had them.
Launch has been smoother for me than anything I've seen.

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I can agree with some of this and only some because my experience varied. My biggest gripe thus far is the camera. On certain quests it will fight me on where I want my view. The snap back feature annoys me to no end. I'm old school. I know how to reset my camera.
The minimap not showing where I've been on some maps is also annoying as well as some skill point areas not working. As for bots, I've run into very few. The two back to back events in Straights of Devastation and the bridge in I believe Harathi Highlands had them.
Launch has been smoother for me than anything I've seen.
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"Use Free Camera" in the options prevents snap back, unless you're talking about something else that I'm not understanding.
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I can agree with some of this and only some because my experience varied. My biggest gripe thus far is the camera. On certain quests it will fight me on where I want my view. The snap back feature annoys me to no end. I'm old school. I know how to reset my camera.
The minimap not showing where I've been on some maps is also annoying as well as some skill point areas not working. As for bots, I've run into very few. The two back to back events in Straights of Devastation and the bridge in I believe Harathi Highlands had them.
Launch has been smoother for me than anything I've seen.
Sent from my DROID X Running ICS CM9

LOL I've literally encountered a mob of bots (powerlevelling I assume - despite the fact that they were all dead in a big pile... so wish I would have screenshotted that but I was irritated and just quit). I think there were about 40-60 in one spot (forget the outpost... think it was in Frostgorge Sound) - in any case it brought my system to it's knees like the dragon event in the early evening!

I agree that if they fixed everything that was wrong with the camera... I'd wait for the rest of it with much greater patience... however, I'm realistic - it will be significantly faster for them to fix every event in the game than to completely rework the way the camera interacts (or at the very least, they won't have as many cascading bugs to deal with... some of which are likely to be complete crashes of the game itself). The broken/hacked events are problematic, but regardless of whether they are easy to fix or very difficult to fix... they are still largely isolated. Changing the camera behavior will change the nature of the game itself... in a good way IMO - but I have no idea how much they've coded the engine itself around the positioning, physical size and shape, etc of the camera object. I mean it seems it would be simple to just make it not a solid (read collision target) object... of course, that would break nearly every jumping puzzle because now you'd have the camera clipping through a mountainside and not be able to see your toon at all. Actually it does that occasionally too, so I'm not even sure to what extent the camera object is seen as a collision target and to what extent it can clip model boundaries... redface.gif

I think the thing we can all agree on is that it's a work in progress at the moment... but it's a very successful one for ANet - so I'm sure they aren't going to leave us hanging in the long run... it just might take a year to get it all ironed out.
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I can agree with some of this and only some because my experience varied. My biggest gripe thus far is the camera. On certain quests it will fight me on where I want my view. The snap back feature annoys me to no end. I'm old school. I know how to reset my camera.
The minimap not showing where I've been on some maps is also annoying as well as some skill point areas not working. As for bots, I've run into very few. The two back to back events in Straights of Devastation and the bridge in I believe Harathi Highlands had them.
Launch has been smoother for me than anything I've seen.
Sent from my DROID X Running ICS CM9

LOL I've literally encountered a mob of bots (powerlevelling I assume - despite the fact that they were all dead in a big pile... so wish I would have screenshotted that but I was irritated and just quit). I think there were about 40-60 in one spot (forget the outpost... think it was in Frostgorge Sound) - in any case it brought my system to it's knees like the dragon event in the early evening!

I agree that if they fixed everything that was wrong with the camera... I'd wait for the rest of it with much greater patience... however, I'm realistic - it will be significantly faster for them to fix every event in the game than to completely rework the way the camera interacts (or at the very least, they won't have as many cascading bugs to deal with... some of which are likely to be complete crashes of the game itself). The broken/hacked events are problematic, but regardless of whether they are easy to fix or very difficult to fix... they are still largely isolated. Changing the camera behavior will change the nature of the game itself... in a good way IMO - but I have no idea how much they've coded the engine itself around the positioning, physical size and shape, etc of the camera object. I mean it seems it would be simple to just make it not a solid (read collision target) object... of course, that would break nearly every jumping puzzle because now you'd have the camera clipping through a mountainside and not be able to see your toon at all. Actually it does that occasionally too, so I'm not even sure to what extent the camera object is seen as a collision target and to what extent it can clip model boundaries... redface.gif

I think the thing we can all agree on is that it's a work in progress at the moment... but it's a very successful one for ANet - so I'm sure they aren't going to leave us hanging in the long run... it just might take a year to get it all ironed out.

Indeed, and at least for myself and my guild, we're happy with what is there so far and willing to wait. Minor irritants is all, for me.

Now, are there immunity times for crowd control or diminishing returns? I was rooted and place earlier and gunned down with no chance of escape. Blew my "Save Yourself" and then CC'd once again.

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I bought another set of armour for magic boost and put the pirate set thingy on it. Then made this setup and realised the greatsword is good for something, alt weapons sword and pistol quite important though. I've been running around Orr in my staff condition build for ages... which is awesome, good dps and very tough but for farming mobs one or two at a time, or just general running around this takes the cake:p It's about as glass cannon as I could get with both me and my illusions putting out max dps there is always some overkill between skills.
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It's been 3 days since I've last played Guild Wars...*SIGH, well at least I got my H100 in my rig and fixed wiring..A lot nicer now..Problem is I can't decide whether I should overclock CPU or play Guild Wars later..What a conundrum. lol
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It's been 3 days since I've last played Guild Wars...*SIGH, well at least I got my H100 in my rig and fixed wiring..A lot nicer now..Problem is I can't decide whether I should overclock CPU or play Guild Wars later..What a conundrum. lol

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And just like that, my hopes are dashed. Whhhhyyyyyy can't they fix this already?! The new drivers are so much better, but I can't stand textures popping to transparent like that. sad-smiley-002.gif
edit:
Holy crap! I remembered someone saying it was because they added ambient occlusion a few weeks ago, but I thought that this was strictly something to do with the game. I didn't realize you could just turn it off in the driver settings! I've been turning it on by habit after each driver install because I like everything to look as good as possible, but I haven't been making the connection until now! It's actually off by default. I feel dumb now. -.-
This is my theme song for the next hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5Qr88ca8w
I get to enjoy the smoothness of the new drivers without any problems now! This is a good day.

so how are the new drivers? i ran 306.23 for a while then tried the dev. 306.63. Ended up going back to .23 as they were much more smooth in terms of gameplay. for whatever reason, although .63 netted me higher fps, the game seemed much more choppy.

and transparent textures..... i leave my ambient occlusion off in the Nv control panel. I tend to leave all my settings at default in that. should i be changing anything in them?
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so how are the new drivers? i ran 306.23 for a while then tried the dev. 306.63. Ended up going back to .23 as they were much more smooth in terms of gameplay. for whatever reason, although .63 netted me higher fps, the game seemed much more choppy.
and transparent textures..... i leave my ambient occlusion off in the Nv control panel. I tend to leave all my settings at default in that. should i be changing anything in them?

Just updated driver to .96 last night though wasn't able to play GW2 to test. I'll play later and place an post feedback here of what I think. I actually had really positive results with the .63 dev drivers with my GTX 680. Personally I have never experience the transparent textures I've been reading a lot about, so IDK what's causing it. In NVIDIA control panel I maxed out everything NVIDIA would allow me to lol.
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Just updated driver to .96 last night though wasn't able to play GW2 to test. I'll play later and place an post feedback here of what I think. I actually had really positive results with the .63 dev drivers with my GTX 680. Personally I have never experience the transparent textures I've been reading a lot about, so IDK what's causing it. In NVIDIA control panel I maxed out everything NVIDIA would allow me to lol.

in terms of transparent textures, i can't say ive encountered them either. and like i said the .63 drivers did increase my fps by anywehre from 5-15. but even though the frame rate was higher, the game was much more choppy. downloading the .97 drivers now, we'll see how they fair.

And remember, im only running a 460se. i cant quite max everything out. But with nv control panel left at default, im running anywhere from 32-49fps at 1920x1080 at the following settings. ill take that as acceptable for having a "special" edition card lol.


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