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post #11 of 31
My advice would be to stay away from Intel until Conroe comes out. Intel doesn't have bad chips, its just that the performance they deliver isn't justified by their cost.

For single core consider an AMD64 3200+ ($150) or AMD64 3700+($210)

For dual core consider an AMD64 X2 3800+($290) or X2 4400+($490)

To keep it simple, try to choose a motherboard (socket 939) that already supports dual core (so you don't have to flash the BIOS). It will take one little nusance out of the equation.

Recommended motherboard brands: ASUS, ABIT, MSI
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how does something like the opteron 170/175/180 compare to the 3700/3800/4000 ???

and is it worth waiting for the conroe or will it be the infinite wait for the next best thing?
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Theyre not that different. Optetrons usually have equal clock speeds, although many people argue about that. Fatal just listed some great choices. *Nudge 3700+ Nudge*
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how does something like the opteron 170/175/180 compare to the 3700/3800/4000 ???

and is it worth waiting for the conroe or will it be the infinite wait for the next best thing?
Don't wait or you will be waiting forever. When Conroe comes out, something else will be on the horizon. Plus, most things get delayed anyway.......so chances are Conroe is farther away than planned.

A socket939 should hold you over for a while........they are pretty future proof. With a PCI-E slot, and the support of dual cores it should serve you for atleast a good 2 years.
    
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post #15 of 31
170 is a nice chip and oc's very well. Its price is very nice and will get you alot of bang for your buck. If you are going to go phase change then Im thinking that you will want to push alot out of the processor, which an opty will let you do. Then again the 3700+ San Diego single core has proven that its cheap price will lend to +700mhz oc's on air. Who knows with phase change. As for the fx-60 ocing well. Well with a phase change setup ive seen a couple people get 3.5gz or more so it is very possible.

The current king of the mobos woudl be dfi because of its stability and numerous options to oc.

few nice ones to consider
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128301

Make sure you get some ddr500ram as it will help to oc easier to without having to put your ram on a divider. These are your best bet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231047

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post #16 of 31
it really depends on what you plan to do I have a second machine that has a 3500+ Venice and I doubt the 3700+ SD is much of a step up and honestly it just doenst cut it, even over clocked from 2.2 to 2.55 (but i could be wrong ive never used a 3700+ SD)

I mean its not a slow computer does handle pretty well when only runing a thing or 2 but it performs no where near when runing things like an AV checker, Flash, Photoshop, MP3 encoding, browsing IE, and chating on AIM all while burning a DVD. I mean I litteraly experience no slow down while switching from photoshop to flash and I really like that... and I hear some people have gotten theirs to OC at 2.9-3.1 ghz thats over a 50% OC, will you be able to get it there? who knows I wasn't, I only got mine to be prime/superpi stable at 2.8ghz@1.44v but im pretty happy with it
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post #17 of 31
I would definetly recommend getting x2 3800+. They are price is fairly reasonable and you can overclock it alot. Right now I'm running mine at 2.6GHz but I know I can go higher... just didnt want to put too much effort right now. At 2.6ghz, i'm running 200mhz faster than the stock speed of 4800+ which is very good.
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Got some great results with my opty 165
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post #19 of 31
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ok i think im definately gonna buy an amd now but im not sure which is more overclockable opteron/64/64x2/64fx how do these ranges compare with each other at the same clock speeds? and how far can i overclock each range?
post #20 of 31
Whats your budget? Thats the first question people should ask
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