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post #21 of 31
Go with the opteron s939. As far as your earlier question about dual cores; a dual core 2.2 GHz is 2 X 2.2
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im not sure what my budget is yet i will budget according to my options maybe £300 maybe less maybe a little more
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A few things. First, the opterons are now more expensive than the san diego athlons. Second, the new steppings (the KAB series) on the 3700+ and 4000+ series are really powerful overclockers, better in fact than the current crop of opterons. I also recommend a 3700+. Its relatively cheap, overclocks well and has 1 mb cache.

With respect the the recommendations on dual core, I disagree depending on your applications. A dual core chip is more expensive than its single core counterpart ( a lot in some cases), does not overclock as well and is typically slower for single applications at stock or overclocked than a comparable single core. Where dual core shines is when you are running multiple apps at the same time. My home rigs are single core, my office rig is a dothan p4. Mind you at my office, I run word, powerpoint, outlook, maximizer and half a dozen other applets at the same time. At home, I play games. IF you are playing games you will want "all" of your system resources devoted to performance. After all dual cores may double the overhead for multiple jobs but you are also sharing hard drive access times and ram. I don't know of anyone who is ripping dvd's while playing call of duty 2.
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i copy and compress quite a lot of dvd films, dont play a lot of games but would love to have the ower to. My main thing would be to be able to copy and compress dvd's whilst doing other things as well and not experience any system slow down. But at the same time be able to stop everything and have a game of something demanding a lot of power. LOL is this the impossible task? Do i ask too much or should i build a second slave pc for dvd copying?
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how does these compare and overclock?

fx-57
64x2 4800
64 4000
opteron 165-180
post #26 of 31
For what you do get a dual core and don't get the top 3 you mentioned. Either get a X2 3800 thru a X24400 or one of the opterons (165 or 170)
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post #27 of 31
if you are going to do something while doing dvd compressing and then other tasks an opteron 170 or 175 are just greast deals. When overclocked your gaming will not suffer. The 4400+ or 4800+ are awesome chips too. Most people seem to fall in love with the opteron because they seem to like to take a bigger oc and the cache on opteron is higher than on the same chip from the Athlon 64 series. FX 57 is a great chip but its just plain exp and a 3700+ will overclock to the same speeds quite easily. 64 4000+ is alittle pricey for what it is and a 3700+ would do just as good.
so to narrow it down
-fx-57 - pricey for what you coudl get out of a sandy
-4000+ will get you about the same oc as a 3700, and costs more
-64 x2 4800 - great chip but with the 4400+ at 1200$ cheaper and still with the 1m cache and nice speeds gaming will be no prob
- opteron - more cache and notably higher oc's (usually) 170 or 175 will be a great bet and your gaming wont suffer

Peronallly id go with the 170 pr 175 or 4400+ all three are awesome just comes down to the price you like. GL
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post #28 of 31
geez, what's with all the intel hate? intel's 9xx series dual cores are GREAT overclockers and would go very high on phase change
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post #29 of 31
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ok i think i will go for the opteron but why did you not mention anything above the 175? is this oveclocking reasons or price or other?

how does the numbering system work for the opterons because the opt 152 is 2.6GHz and the 180 is 2.4GHz so does this mean the 152 is better?????

also can some link me to or write me some info on opteron cores and stepping and which is best for the top end opteron's eg 175 etc. Also what overclocks the best in the top end and again which stepping.

thanks
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A few things. First, the opterons are now more expensive than the san diego athlons. Second, the new steppings (the KAB series) on the 3700+ and 4000+ series are really powerful overclockers, better in fact than the current crop of opterons. I also recommend a 3700+. Its relatively cheap, overclocks well and has 1 mb cache.

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Amen to that! I have a similar situation. At work my task bar is stuffed! At home I game and surf. I would go AMD 3700+. If I knew what I do today about OCing I would have gotten teh 3700+ rather then the 4000 and saved some coin
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