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post #11 of 20
A shame too because I'd rather be folding but just absolutely got sick of the F@H software after months of having to babysit it constantly. For me so far BOINC has pretty much been 'set it and forget it'
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hey i just dont understand why these two organizations dont combine their resources. I know they have different goals but for me it seems like a better goal to find and cure diseases rather than decrypting wwii messages or trying to locate an alien signal. just weird why can anyone ever focus on improving the world problems, instead of focusing on things that dont help our situation now. imagine the difference it would make if all 400k+ boinc users added to the power of f@h even just for a day...
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hey i just dont understand why these two organizations dont combine their resources. I know they have different goals but for me it seems like a better goal to find and cure diseases rather than decrypting wwii messages or trying to locate an alien signal. just weird why can anyone ever focus on improving the world problems, instead of focusing on things that dont help our situation now. imagine the difference it would make if all 400k+ boinc users added to the power of f@h even just for a day...

The idea of what matters to each person is different. You feel that medical science projects are "better goals" but this doesn't mean that everyone else shares the same opinion as you. This is what makes BOINC very nice, it's got a project for almost everyone.

ps. Folding@Home was originally a BOINC project smile.gif
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run rosetta@home, they fold proteins
    
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hey i just dont understand why these two organizations dont combine their resources. I know they have different goals but for me it seems like a better goal to find and cure diseases rather than decrypting wwii messages or trying to locate an alien signal. just weird why can anyone ever focus on improving the world problems, instead of focusing on things that dont help our situation now. imagine the difference it would make if all 400k+ boinc users added to the power of f@h even just for a day...

As has already been pointed out, there are many different interests. I don't condemn you for wanting to do medical research and prodding people here to do medical research, I am glad that you think enough to want to help. Where you may be lacking is in realizing the usefulness of advancing physics or cryptography or advanced computing algorithms or finding extra terrestrial life.
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As has already been pointed out, there are many different interests. I don't condemn you for wanting to do medical research and prodding people here to do medical research, I am glad that you think enough to want to help. Where you may be lacking is in realizing the usefulness of advancing physics or cryptography or advanced computing algorithms or finding extra terrestrial life.

can you tell me how useful those things will be for furthering our own well being if we die from disease that we cant overcome? I am not saying that those things arent important. I am saying it would be nice if all our information could be used together instead of through different projects. and or organizations. If these universities could just put their programs as one than we could all make a much bigger impact
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post #17 of 20
A few examples:

If it weren't for cryptography, it's my understanding that we wouldn't have security on the internet, thus having no security for protecting our credit cards when purchasing stuff online.

By proving mathematical theorems to be true (ie. ABC conjecture, Collatz Conjecture), we could end up using them in many areas of computing (maybe even a better algorithm for the Rosetta@Home application) and accelerate the speed at which those computations are done.
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can you tell me how useful those things will be for furthering our own well being if we die from disease that we cant overcome? I am not saying that those things arent important. I am saying it would be nice if all our information could be used together instead of through different projects. and or organizations. If these universities could just put their programs as one than we could all make a much bigger impact
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A few examples:
If it weren't for cryptography, it's my understanding that we wouldn't have security on the internet, thus having no security for protecting our credit cards when purchasing stuff online.
By proving mathematical theorems to be true (ie. ABC conjecture, Collatz Conjecture), we could end up using them in many areas of computing (maybe even a better algorithm for the Rosetta@Home application) and accelerate the speed at which those computations are done.

Also, once we find the little green men using SETI we'll be able to use their advanced technology to solve all of our human problems! tongue.gif

All kidding aside, the "value" of a project that a person supports is purely subjective. It's like deciding on a charity to support. One person might pick a charity that supports music programs for kids while another might pick one that supports a cure for cancer. Both are admirable charities, but you can't say one is objectively better than another. Rather, it's each person's subjective belief that drives them to support a particular cause.
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F@H is a cul-de-sac, once computers start designing themselves, then the rate of development in medical science and engineering of all kinds will explode. Suddenly you will all have a life expectancy of 200 years, long enough for us to destroy the planet...

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can you tell me how useful those things will be for furthering our own well being if we die from disease that we cant overcome? I am not saying that those things arent important. I am saying it would be nice if all our information could be used together instead of through different projects. and or organizations. If these universities could just put their programs as one than we could all make a much bigger impact

some of? Hell. . . most of the greatest advances of all times were found by accident! and had nothing to do with what was being researched at the time smile.gif
I would like to say that a cleaner form of energy could and would cut down on a lot of cancer and other disease and tests done in space have found many different drugs!
But what research was done to get up there?
Maybe mathematical theorems? (ie. ABC conjecture, Collatz Conjecture) or AQUA and other research on computing?
even gaming plays it's part as there is not many people who bye GPUs just to crunch, well not to begin with any ways smile.gif
The irony is that research on destroying ourselves has found many of the brake throughs we now use to save ourselves, some of them are
radar
the microwave oven
super glue
net working LAN/WAN
the jet plane
antibiotics
cars that drive themselves?!

And that's just off the top of my head, when was the last time that u played Civilization? and had to decide what to research?
I feel like u about clean energy? can we wait until 2050 for the first clean reactor?
food for thought thinking.gif
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