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post #21 of 178
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Originally Posted by CyberDruid
I had the mistaken impression that my Water Cooled PC would be silent. I have 2 air-cooled PCs that are quieter! Choosing a good case that does not resonate the internal noises is a good start (Antec P-180) because the pump will make a distinct hum. the radiator fan(s) ar another factor--it is better to have the largest most efficient fans you can find--then undervolt them until they are not loud enough to drive you insane.

Watecooling is not necessarily quiet--but it is about 65 times more efficient than air at removing heat...a lot of factors will contribue to the overall performance of the loop--WB design, tube I.D. , Pump Specs, Rad design and flow characteristics, the actual coolant, ambient temps,shroud design, fan choices and specs. Probablt worth taking some time to reseach.
Hi CyberDruid,

I agree with you 100%... That's why I'm taking my time trying to decide if watercooling is worth it or not. The summer will play the big part for me.

As for the noise. I read where a guy placed his pump, radiator and tank in a small 3.2 cu/ft refrig. He cut holes in the side for the tubing, re-insulated the holes and let it rip. He kept the refrig at about the medium settings. He "claims" his system was quiet (everything enclosed), cool and the BIG thing, kept his beers cold! Had a couple of pictures as well. The refrig was right next to his computer case. I've tried finding that web site again, but couldn't. It was quite funny at first, but the more I got to thinking about it, the more it made sense.

On sale I can pick up one of those little refrig for under $50.00. Putting a couple of holes in it and setting up a water cooling system should be easy enough... What say you all???

Take care and I'll check this thread later for comments. I've gotta go now. :-)
post #22 of 178
it's definatly doable. You'd have to insulate your tubing really well or you would get condensation inside your rig... which would be bad
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Originally Posted by soloz2
it's definatly doable. You'd have to insulate your tubing really well or you would get condensation inside your rig... which would be bad
Hi Soloz2,

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to really do a "phase change" type cooling process. Water cooling would be good, but might not get the lower temps like I want. Chillling the water tank/pump/radiator is what I was thinking. As you state, chilling the water too far will get condensation.

So that begs the question. How cold can you chill the water? Ambient room temps would be 28-25degC or 68-77degF. Case temps about 2degC or 5degF higher. Now where did my thermal dynamics book go from college??? Hmmm

I'm going to run some tests in the near future, because practical application beats the book numbers eveytime...

Thanks again and take care, :-)
post #24 of 178
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Originally Posted by pcharouz
how much more would I be able to overclock with the swiftech? compared to the xp-90c with a Vantec tornado?
Hi pcharouz,

That's a good question and will be different for each application. I assume you're talking about your Athlon 64 4000+. I'm not real up to date on this cpu. Info like current voltage being used vs stock, and how high the fsb can really be taken.

Just based on my numbers and experience. I'd have to guess maybe 5-8% more. So if your stock settings show 2.4Gb with 1.35v and dissipating 89W.

What I've seen or read on the internet. Remember everbody's tests will be different because of different testing methods and systems. Folks here at overclock may have had better results or know of some.
On air cooling - maybe 2.9Gb at 1.5v. Water - maybe 3.1/3.2 at 1.55v. More voltage didn't help the overclocks.

This is all I know about your particular cpu... Sorry I can't be of more help.

Take care, :-)
post #25 of 178
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Originally Posted by 455buick
Hi Soloz2,

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to really do a "phase change" type cooling process. Water cooling would be good, but might not get the lower temps like I want. Chillling the water tank/pump/radiator is what I was thinking. As you state, chilling the water too far will get condensation.

So that begs the question. How cold can you chill the water? Ambient room temps would be 28-25degC or 68-77degF. Case temps about 2degC or 5degF higher. Now where did my thermal dynamics book go from college??? Hmmm

I'm going to run some tests in the near future, because practical application beats the book numbers eveytime...

Thanks again and take care, :-)


If you're going to chill the water... even a few degrees I'd still insulate your tubing and blocks. sure you may not get condensation all the time, but temp and humidity do fluctuate. In my opinion... better safe than sorry!
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What is the best air cooling on the market? And that is a cool Idea, I was thinking about that too but than I realized that it would be hard to get rid of condezation. The only way it would work, if you would put the whole computer in the fridge.
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post #27 of 178
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Its kind of hard to resist the big water 745 now, since on newegg you get this as a conbo for 8.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106070
(is that any good?)
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post #28 of 178
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What is the best air cooling on the market? And that is a cool Idea, I was thinking about that too but than I realized that it would be hard to get rid of condezation. The only way it would work, if you would put the whole computer in the fridge.

the best air cooler would be the big typhoon. and you can get the chilled water to work w/o putting the whole computer in the fridge. you would just have to insulate very carefully. take a look at a couple of the work logs that say waterchiller in the title or something like that.
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post #29 of 178
The guides on Phase-change setups go into ALOT of detail on how to combat condensation.

He's my thread with my planned setup, including my planned WC setup. EVeryone so far seems to agree that my planned WC setup is gooood. It's pretty much identical to that swiftech kit, which is probably what i will buy from overclockers.co.uk

http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...per-rig-2.html
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post #30 of 178
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How much would I custom water cooling kit be? Can you guys give me links to each of the componets? I still cant figure out if I should go air, water, or keep what I have and buy better hardware.
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