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Oh yeah, sure. There are 5 types of raid (I believe ). There is raid 0, 1, 5, 6, and 1+0. The three most comon types are 0, 1, and 5. First of all I'll teach you about raid 0, the most comonly used. Raid 0 is where you have two or more of the same hard drives (I will ude two in this example), and a raid controller (every raid setup needs a raid controller). Say you save a file of 20mb. That will go to the raid controller instead of directly to the hdds. The raid controller will split the file of 20mb into 2 files of 10mb. One of the 10mb files will be saved to one hdd, and the second 10mb to the other hdd. That means you get double the speed because the hdds are only saving one 10mb file aposed to a 20mb file. Once you load that file, the raid controller will pull the two files from the two hdds and join them back together to have you original 20mb file. There are pros and cons to this setup though.


Pros:

Double the read and write speed.
I'm not sure there are any others than that big one.

Cons:

Double the likelyness for the setup to fail (as you have two hdds, they are two times as likely to fail)
If one does fail, you will not be able to get the information back because you have only half of the information stored on the hdd that is left.

Next post I'll tell you about 1 and 5. Sorry if my explanation is long and hard to follow. Please tell me if you don't get anything so far.
I think i understand it, so if i save a 20mb for example one would it split onto the hdd and the ssd too or does that only apply to regular hard drives?

Go ahead to explain 1 and 5 too
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Okay second post.

Now for a less common raid, raid 1. Raid 1 is very simple. It's where you have two hdds or more, and all it does is this: Say you save a 20mb file (like in the last example). The raid controller will duplicate that file and save each of those duplicated files to each hard drive giving you protection against losing your data.

Pros:

Having protection against losing your data incase one of your hdds fail.

Cons:

Now, I'm not sure on this one. Some one please confirm this with me: You will have the speed of one hdd except have protection. Might be that it cuts the speed in half.


Raid 5: For raid 5 you need 3 or more hdds. Now raid 5 is a hard one to explain, so I'll give you this youtube video. Might have to watch it twice to get it.


Pros: You get protection and speed.
If a drive fails, your raid 5 config becomes a raid 0 config (kind of a pro/con).

Cons: If more than one hdd fails then you lose your data.


Next I'll teach you about raid 6 and 1+0.
    
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I think i understand it, so if i save a 20mb for example one would it split onto the hdd and the ssd too or does that only apply to regular hard drives?

Go ahead to explain 1 and 5 too
Well yo have to have the same hdds to do raid. You can't have two different hdds like a samsung and a western digital, an ssd, and an hdd, or a 640gb and a 1tb. Has to be the same. Just to say again, half of the file goes to one hdd, the other half goes to the other hdd.
    
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Okay second post.

Now for a less common raid, raid 1. Raid 1 is very simple. It's where you have two hdds or more, and all it does is this: Say you save a 20mb file (like in the last example). The raid controller will duplicate that file and save each of those duplicated files to each hard drive giving you protection against losing your data.

Pros:

Having protection against losing your data incase one of your hdds fail.

Cons:

Now, I'm not sure on this one. Some one please confirm this with me: You will have the speed of one hdd except have protection. Might be that it cuts the speed in half.


Raid 5: For raid 5 you need 3 or more hdds. Now raid 5 is a hard one to explain, so I'll give you this youtube video. Might have to watch it twice to get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTq4pGZtzho

Pros: You get protection and speed.
If a drive fails, your raid 5 config becomes a raid 0 config (kind of a pro/con).

Cons: If more than one hdd fails then you lose your data.


Next I'll teach you about raid 6 and 1+0.
Makes since, i won't be needing raid 5 though because i will only have 2 HDD's max. Anyways, go ahead teach me about 6 & 1+0 Thanks a lot for your help btw!
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Processor - Intel Core i7 980x Extreme Edition Processor

Motherboard - ASUS Rampage Extreme III

RAM - G.SKILL Trident 6GB DDR3 2000MHz (PC3 16000) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model

HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive & SSD - Still Deciding

Graphics Card - EVGA Geforce GTX 480 Superclocked

Case - Cooler Master HAF 922 High Air Flow Case

Cooling - Corsair Hydro H70 High Performance CPU Cooler, CM MegaFlow Case Fans, Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound

DVD Drive - ASUS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner

Monitor - Still Deciding.

PSU - Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750-Watt HX Professional Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply

This is my first build so i have a lot of questions: What monitor should i get? Is the Dell U2311h good for gaming? I would like it to be 1920x1080 and at least 23" under $350. And how is my ram and HDD? Also, should i be spending the extra money on 1000w PSU?

Thanks,

Intel Overclocker.
I looked at this and immediately thought "wow someone really researched there parts list"

My only complaint against the list is the CPU Cooler. In my opinion, if you are spending this much on a rig, then spend $350 more and get a custom water cooling system. You'll be able to overclock to the moon and still have great temps.





The only thing you need to add to that is fans. 6x Yate Loon Mediums $30.

Those are great fans and they are pretty quiet.

The Intel G2 80gb SSD reccomended above is great.

Overall this setup looks pretty awesome.
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Well yo have to have the same hdds to do raid. You can't have two different hdds like a samsung and a western digital, an ssd, and an hdd, or a 640gb and a 1tb. Has to be the same. Just to say again, half of the file goes to one hdd, the other half goes to the other hdd.
Ahh okay, so would two 500GB Spinpoint F3 in RAID 0 be faster than the 1TB spinpoint F3?
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I looked at this and immediately thought "wow someone really researched there parts list"

My only complaint against the list is the CPU Cooler. In my opinion, if you are spending this much on a rig, then spend $350 more and get a custom water cooling system. You'll be able to overclock to the moon and still have great temps.





The only thing you need to add to that is fans. 6x Yate Loon Mediums $30.

Those are great fans and they are pretty quiet.

The Intel G2 80gb SSD reccomended above is great.

Overall this setup looks pretty awesome.
Water cooling does sound really good, but i know absolutely nothing about it except it does a great job of cooling components... And i am not spending as much as you think, as i am getting the 980x and rampage III free from a friend who represents intel. But i will look into water cooling, i will need more info on it.
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Water cooling does sound really good, but i know absolutely nothing about it except it does a great job of cooling components... And i am not spending as much as you think, as i am getting the 980x and rampage III free from a friend who represents intel. But i will look into water cooling, i will need more info on it.
I saw the CPU was free but didn't see the motherboard was free as well. That would definitly cut off a big chunk of money.

If you are curious, look around the watercooling section. There are alot of threads with people setting up loops for the first time and with alot of questions. Alot of people to help as well.

Basic idea is this. You have a water pump pushing the water to a radiator which cools the water to roughly room temperature. Then, the water is pushed into a copper block that sits on the CPU. The copper is cooled by the cold water and thus cools the cpu. The water then flows out of the cpu block and into ussually a reservoir and then into the pump again.

In my loop the pump and the reservoir are one thing so my loop looks like this.

Pump/Reservoir---> Radiator ---> CPU Block--->Back to Pump
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Raid 6: You will most likely never get a raid 6 setup for multiple reasons, but there is a slight chance you will. Raid 6 is just like raid 5, except you need 4+ hdds (can someone confirm that? I believe it is 4 or more, might be 6 though). So like raid 5, the controller brings up that little chart thingy like in the raid 5 video. It then spreads the data to two parity drives (To tell you the truth I'm not even sure what a parity drive is lol. I just know it works ). That means that if you lose 2 drives you will still be able to save you data.

Pros:

Lots of protection and speed.
If you lose 2 drives you can still recover your data.

Cons:

You need 4+ hdds which will cost a lot of money.
You can not use the ich10r raid controller in your south bridge to use raid 6. You will need to get a seperate raid card which will also cost quiet a bit.

Raid 6 is made for servers pretty much. Not sure any gaming pc has raid 6 .

Okay, finally raid 1+0. It pretty simple. It's just even number of hdds (you need a minimum of 4), and you have half doing raid 1 and half doing raid 0. I really don't get the point in this one, so I won't put pros or cons. Hope you get raid now!
    
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if you ever decide to do a large graphics array the HX1000w isnt enough.
ditch the HX1000w and get a TPQ-1200 or the silverstone 1.5Kw PSU. you have a 980x, i would assume you have the bank for it anyways.

OCN is doing exactly what it did to me man.
the HX1000w was not enough for stable operation with a full system overclock.
heres my original thread: http://www.overclock.net/power-suppl...00-enough.html
who told you to get a 1000 for a 5970 + a 465. it is cutting it close but i don't see why it should work. people usually get an 850watt for one 5970 rig but since you have another gpu i would get a 1200watt for your system

Edit: I checked the thread you posted and most people recommended to get a 1200watt power supply and said you were cutting it close
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